[the1stSecond]

10-4
View attachment datalog3.zip View attachment datalog2.zip
https://drive.google.com/folderview?id=0B_9rGonTG1m2M0pyTS05S2p4SXc&usp=sharing

 

[Kevin]

Not sure what format you used but I can't open it

 

[the1stSecond]

Its just a zip file. CSV files within. Should download to your computer then right click "extract files" once downloaded.
I'll throw it into my google in a few and post a link.
Here is a free program for zip files.
7-Zip

 

[the1stSecond]

https://drive.google.com/folderview?id=0B_9rGonTG1m2M0pyTS05S2p4SXc&usp=sharing

 

[KristianST]

Just threw in one step colder NGK plugs at .030"
I don't have Microsoft anything on my computer to look at graphs or anything. All I can do is pull the plugs and check em, and keep an eye on my accessport for misfires.

 

[wuplash]

It is interesting that frpp is going two heat ranges colder than the factory plug for there power kit.
FRPP COLD SPARK PLUG SET 2.0L TURBO | Part Details for M-12405-20T* | Ford Racing Performance Parts
So i guess the pic at sema of those denso itv24 plugs was legit.

 

[KristianST]

Just threw in one step colder NGK plugs at .030" I don't have Microsoft anything on my computer to look at graphs or anything. All I can do is pull the plugs and check em, and keep an eye on my accessport for misfires.

Edit .039" ...

 

[ST_Fan]

Edit .039" ...

They may misfire at that gap.

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[Unreal]

Just threw in one step colder NGK plugs at .030"
... All I can do is pull the plugs and check em, and keep an eye on my accessport for misfires.

Edit .039" ...

They may misfire at that gap.k

The workshop manual indicates the spark plug gap should be between .028 and .031, so definitely watch the logs if you are using .039.

 

[KristianST]

I can't read logs. Don't have the ability.
I'll have to fix/gap them tomorrow

 

[Alex@Stratified]

You don't need to watch logs for spark blowout/misfires. You'll feel the car hesitate during acceleration and perhaps hear popping from the exhaust. You will feel it right away.

 

[ST_Fan]

You don't need to watch logs for spark blowout/misfires. You'll feel the car hesitate during acceleration and perhaps hear popping from the exhaust. You will feel it right away.

When under full load and boost it's a very noticeable kick.. Was worried it was preignition but unlikely.

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[Alex@Stratified]

When under full load and boost it's a very noticeable kick.. Was worried it was preignition but unlikely.

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Spark blowout is not pre-ignition. It is fairly harmless to the motor and a bit more harmful to the catalytic converter. It's mostly annoying and prevents smooth driving. Pre-ignition you won't feel until it is too late and I don't think anyone here is experiencing pre-ignition.

 

[ST_Fan]

I don't think I've ever felt preignition on any car. But this misfire felt bad on this car since normally it's so smooth.

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[EdgeAutosport.com]

all of mine out of the box were at 29-30 thou. don't understand how yours were at 41???

Denso's are gapped a bit smaller than NGK's.

The thing is that ngk recommends max adjustments to .008" only due to electrodes possibly not lining up hindering performance. I have the ngk as well and just waiting to see how they do regapped to ST specifications before installing.

If it makes you feel any better about running NGK's gapped down farther than what NGK recommends, I ran through two sets of the NGK's (15k miles on one set and 10k on the other) at .026 gap on my GTX3071 MS3 making 386whp and then another 5k miles on a much bigger turbo making 503whp and I have never had an issue with an NGK plug failing...

It is interesting that frpp is going two heat ranges colder than the factory plug for there power kit.
FRPP COLD SPARK PLUG SET 2.0L TURBO | Part Details for M-12405-20T* | Ford Racing Performance Parts
So i guess the pic at sema of those denso itv24 plugs was legit.

FRPP also doesn't have an intercooler upgrade so with the more aggressive tune and the useless factory FMIC, the two step plugs are probably more necessary.

 

[PacDawg]

I've been reading the big turbo MS3 guys running the NGKs like yourself with no problems. Some have actually said the NGKs do better in preventing spark blowout compared to the Denso, so I'll be installing the NGKs shortly. Thanks!!!

 

[sehenry29]

Just installed ngk's with my cobb tbe. I gapped them to .28 with no problems. Seems to be pulling less timing up top then before which is what I wanted.

 

[Kevin]

^ do you have any before and after logs?

 

[sehenry29]

^ do you have any before and after logs?

No just a visual observation of the gauges.

 

[hemiCouple@Stratified]

has anyone figured out exactly what plugs are included in the Ford racing package?