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#1 ·
Hello all!

First post, so I'll make it interesting. My 2014.5 ST3 has a Mountune 200 cell downpipe, which I only learned about a few years after buying the thing. This is a pretty rare DP as you can't get them stateside; they have to come from the UK/EU. They're designed to pass UK MOT emissions tests. Also came with Mountune charge pipes hot & cold--and a tune of some sort. This was great news of course, but it does make smog a bit of a risk. I should say that it passed smog when I bought it in 2017. I'm honestly not sure if this year's the year for Smog, but I'd assume so since it's eight years after manufacture.

What I'm wondering is wether or not they'll notice the Mountune DP since it looks very stock and/or if it'll trip any sensor issues. I was told by the Ford tech that I had a tune when I took it in for a recall, so I'd assume he's not mistaken and that'll present an issue. But again, wouldn't that have been a problem when I first bought it? Anyways--not sure what to do. I also have some other mods I've done myself: MBRP intake, RS box, Mountune recirculation valve, intake elbow, and a symposer delete. I would assume removing swapping out the intake and filter would be a smart move. Recirculation valve shouldn't be an issue and neither should the symposer delete as I made it very low-key with some electrical tape.

Suggestions?
 
#2 ·
These were not rare downpipes, they were sold out of Mountune USA for a long time, then Mountune had a lot of supply issues, Covid happened, CA got stricter as well as the EPA on selling things like that, so it's just not sold anymore from them. It's probably not even as desirable as you think.

That said, if you throw no codes today, as long as you have your car nice and warmed up before testing you should be okay, giving the cats time to warm up and function. You should pass

If you were getting a CEL, you can also trick it if you failed, with a j-pipe adapter. Which is a small threaded tube that takes the factory O2 sensor out of the main exhaust stream and not in direct contact.

As for your other mods, it will vary state by state and their requirements. CA and NY being the tougher states to pass. CA especially with their CARB certified parts.
 
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These were not rare downpipes, they were sold out of Mountune USA for a long time, then Mountune had a lot of supply issues, Covid happened, CA got stricter as well as the EPA on selling things like that, so it's just not sold anymore from them. It's probably not even as desirable as you think.

That said, if you throw no codes today, as long as you have your car nice and warmed up before testing you should be okay, giving the cats time to warm up and function. You should pass

If you were getting a CEL, you can also trick it if you failed, with a j-pipe adapter. Which is a small threaded tube that takes the factory O2 sensor out of the main exhaust stream and not in direct contact.

As for your other mods, it will vary state by state and their requirements. CA and NY being the tougher states to pass. CA especially with their CARB certified parts.
Hmm, that explains why you can't find the Mountune downpipes anymore. The downpipe looks pretty stock and I would assume they're not gonna interrogate that if it's fine on the software side. Dunno if that's luck of the draw or what.
 
#3 ·
You can go to AutoZone and have them scan it to see if all of the emissions monitors are ready. If so, you should be able to pass, at least in most places.

California is starting to look for aftermarket intakes and will fail you if yours doesn't have a CARB sticker on it so swapping it out is a smart move.
 
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You can go to AutoZone and have them scan it to see if all of the emissions monitors are ready. If so, you should be able to pass, at least in most places.

California is starting to look for aftermarket intakes and will fail you if yours doesn't have a CARB sticker on it so swapping it out is a smart move.
Yeah I plan on swapping back to OEM intake/filter. I have an RS box, which is visually different from stock but I can just put the stock lid on lol. I don't think the hot/cold intercooler pipes are DQ'd by smog if the intercooler is not CARB regulated. I have the hot side hard pipe as well.
 
#4 ·
Supposedly CA checks for tunes now so if you are not able to flash back to a stock tune that may be an issue. I’m not entirely sure how they check though
 
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Welp, my car is registered at my parent's IL farm where there is no emissions, so the only advice i can give is move somewhere that being a car enthusiast isn't a crime, lol
 
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#28 ·
Some things will not be noticed by a visual (such as an DP or an intake), whether deliberate or simply overlooked. The tech will plug in to your OBD port and the system will read any non approved tune and flag/fail you. If the tune is not CARB approved you need to flash back to stock and drive the vehicle enough for all the sensors to be online.
 
#29 ·
DO not plug in ur tuned car into SMOG system, it will black list it.

Flash back to stock, do the drive cycle and get the monitors ready.
then you are good, as far as visual goes a lil $$ goes a long way.
 
#30 ·
DO not plug in ur tuned car into SMOG system, it will black list it.

Flash back to stock, do the drive cycle and get the monitors ready.
then you are good, as far as visual goes a lil $$ goes a long way.
Interesting; last I heard it was just considered a fail no different from a visual or CEL fail. Are you suggesting you'll be required to go to the state ref if it fails the CVN/tune test? If so that's crazy, but not surprising. I'm only concerned about the unknown "tune". Everything else can be changed easily or just won't be seen.