get a 2.3 out of a Ford Mustang eco? just find one that has hit a crowd and totalled out

 

:big smile:

 

All those 2.0's are the same with the exception of the oil cooler. Yours will bolt on however. In 2016 the escape and edge got the upgraded 2.0 and it will not work. That motor has the twin scroll head, 4 lobe exhaust cam and 30 mm exhaust valves. It also mounts a little different

 

This is really helpful info. Thanks! I'm seeing low mileage Escape motors, but most of them are 2016 & 2017 so I'll steer clear of those. The Edge motors seem to run a several hundred dollar premium used, which is interesting since there's no reason. I may like look more into possibly using a Fusion motor instead.

 

2.0 block with 2.3 head swap for twin scroll turbos, the bees knees.

Listen to DDfred, he knows things.'


What happened to your engine anyway?

 

What happened to your engine anyway?

I'm not 100% sure as it's hard to see around the accessories and other stuff, but based on the aluminum shrapnel I'm pretty sure I threw a rod. It sucks too, as I was not pushing it at all. Just getting on the highway, accelerating at a normal speed when there was such a loud/violent explosion that for a moment I thought I had hit a cinder block or something. No detonation or anything else prior to give me any concern, and I know enough about LSPI to have made sure I was not in too low a gear. I also wasn't revving it out or anything as I was in no particular hurry that morning.

Car dumped all the oil in just a few feet, and the engine bay and RF suspension is all covered in it. Given the chunks of the block that I've found so far this also creates a problem if I go with an engine rebuilder that requires a core or charges a significant core charge.

 

Here's the pic of the oil trail

 

Going to assume you are tuned/modded, just because that's the luck.
Probably not even related but will be to blame. Unless you do just love beating on your car etc.

 

I drive spirited but don't think I beat on it and rarely wind it out high RPM. I also keep an eye on the oil temp and never get into the boost much until the car is warmed up.

And yes, I was tuned and modded but pretty tame. 3.5" Depo intercooler, OCD cattless DP, Cobb exhaust and a Mountune filter is all the hard parts. I was also E85 Strattified tuned, but I was running the E85 as it's readily available here and for the greater knock resistance. I had stressed to the tuner that longetivity was much more important to me than peak power numbers, so I had asked for a tune that was more focused on being safe than absolute power.

I sure wish I had been logging at the time so I could get a better idea of what the heck happened. Interestingly there's not even a check engine code on the car, which made me laugh as I was sitting waiting on the tow with a car that now has a ventilated block.

 

I've never seen a ringland failure blow a hole in the block but I do know that in most cases, a broken rod will punch a hole in the block, oil pan, etc.

 

Yeah, I can't imagine anything other a broken rod or crank (highly unlikely) ventilating a block. That being said I also don't understand how just regular acceleration on a safely tuned vehicle could snap a rod at low RPM's (guessing 3-4K). No signs of detonation prior to that either, so I'm puzzled why it'd just toss a rod like that. Should be interesting when I finally get a chance to tear it down and inspect the components.

 

U can get a full escape 2.0 motor turbo and all for about 1k. I got mine on ebay from a escape 2015 that was totaled after 648 miles . Rear ended just make sure to run vin and look at mileage . Then my 2014 totaled so got 2017 .now gonna send motor to get stage 3 long done .

 

Thanks for the great info! I did some searching on eBay today and am shocked at the huge supply of Escape motors that are available. It's very tempting to go this route for now, and table the built motor until I'm ready to do a 2.3 stroker.

Do we know for sure what year range Escape motors will work? The comparability tool seems to think anything 2016-under will work, but I'm not sure if it's really 2015-under that I need to get if I'm looking for a direct swap.

 

What about the RS engine? I know it's based on the eco Mustang, but it should be more compatible with the ST than the Mustang version?

 

They are the same engine. The only difference is the oil pan. The RS did not get a special engine.

 

Any 2.0L Ecoboost from 2012 up will work except for as Si stated the updated Ecoboost in the MKC, etc all have a twin scroll turbo and other differences that don't make it a direct swap.

I bought a 2016 Ecoboost from a Fusion for $550 minus the turbo. Unless you have major engine damage your turbo survived. However I will say this is an excellent time to upgrade the turbo and upgrade the clutch to match the added power.

The turbo was upgraded on my car at the same time the new engine was installed, much, much easier that way. I am not even using the ST oil cooler at the moment and it's fine.

 

Any 2.0L Ecoboost from 2012 up will work except for as Si stated the updated Ecoboost in the MKC, etc all have a twin scroll turbo and other differences that don't make it a direct swap.

I bought a 2016 Ecoboost from a Fusion for $550 minus the turbo. Unless you have major engine damage your turbo survived. However, I will say this is an excellent time to upgrade the turbo and upgrade the clutch to match the added power.

The turbo was upgraded on my car at the same time the new engine was installed, much, much easier that way. I am not even using the ST oil cooler at the moment and it's fine.

Cool thanks for the reply. The junkyards that are selling used 2.0L motors are telling me that the 2015 and older Escapes with EcoBoost are not compatible with the 2014 ST.

For instance this one https://spaldings.hollanderstores.com/used-auto-parts/2014/ford/escape/engine/300-engine-assembly/300-09153-2.0l-(vin-9,-8th-digit,-turbo)/part-4255063-2303-1

Just wanted to reverify before I pulled the trigger on one of these ecoboosts

 

They, the junkyards, have a computer program that they must run the vehicle through to see it the engine incompatible. I talked to a ford rep in the parts department and had him cross reference some long block part number and the matched. I think a low milage lincoln might be the way to go as who normal buys lincolns? OLD PEOPLE, and we all know that they not drive fast or hard. I found a 23k MKZ motor.

I was never planning on getting an ST motor as it will have been used and abused, or at least it has a higher possibility.

The reason I was going to use Spaulding was that they are semi close, 4 hours away, I know they compression test all the motors they sell and they give you a 6-month warranty on the motor.

Do most junkyards do this?

 

I have driven my mothers 2.3 MKC pretty hard when I am in it. Lol! It is a lease so I am not concerned.

 

@SLSTomper can you please verify that 2016 model year Ford Escapes built before 11/18/2015 are still the correct engine. It still uses the 2.0 cylinder head and turbo.[emoji106][emoji2532][emoji106][emoji2532]


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2015 was the cutoff year. The exact date I dont know man, sorry

 

has no one tried to fit the twin scroll in the st ,or is it no go ? , one thing on the Lincolns is they`re probably driven too slow ,lots of very short trips ,never fully warmed up ,and ****ty walmart gas lol ,+ i`am not sure if auto`s suffer from lspi or not just thoughts

 

So all 2.0 regardless of what model it is in built before 11/18/15 would work with a 2013 st?

 

I don’t believe so. There have been 2-3 threads over the last year or so that list the cars that enable a ‘lift and replace’ swap.

I have a list at home. Send me a PM if you don’t find any of those threads and I’ll send you the list.

FYI...I stole the list from someone who posted it on here.

 

bringing this thread back up. Does anybody know of a location for a part number on the motor? I have a 2014 Land Rover that uses the 2.0 ecoboost. It needs a new short block. I’m just trying to figure out a part number from Ford to order it instead of paying four times the amount at Land Rover. It has this rage on the valve cover.

 

@partemisio I can't help you match the valve cover part numbers, but our compatible engines list is here. If you determine it's a direct match these can give you more models to search from.

Compatible Engine Swap List

The 2.0 gen 1 (single scroll) engine came in the following vehicles 2010– Ford Mondeo 2011–2015 Ford Explorer 2011–2014 Ford Edge 2011– 2017 Range Rover Evoque 2011– Ford S-MAX 2012–2016 Ford Falcon 2013–2015 Ford Escape / Kuga 2013–2015 Land Rover Freelander 2 2013–2016 Ford Fusion 2013–2017...

www.focusst.org

 

Thanks for that! So an engine from any of those should work (I have an evoque like listed). When I look online for a 2014 escape for example, it lists two different ones but I’m not sure if maybe one just comes with something else.

 

It won't work as far as a direct swap is concerned. Your land Rover has a traditional 4 port exhaust manifold where our ford's have a single exhaust opening out of an integrated headifold.

However this is Intriguing, maybe this head can be installed on our cars!

 

FOMOCO is all over this engine. The rfbb5e6090 number on the cylinder head is the part number for it and comes up with all different cars on google when you type it in (mandeo, s-max, fusion, edge). I’m still gonna try to figure this out so I don’t have to pay three times the amount through Land Rover.

 

Can I ask an uneducated question as I’m new to this platform but not Ford’s ecoboost platform. Why can we take one of the newer 2.0L long blocks and install our head on it along with exhaust and turbo? Did Ford really redesign the 2.0L platform?

 

What all short blocks will work? I blew a while in mine so I’m trying get a bare block.

 

See the link I shared 2 posts above yours...

 

Who suggested you need a new engine and why?

 

Because I need one. The question is can it be interchanged or not? If so, with what? Thanks.

Being told that it's a Ford motor.