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Here's a quick run I did today in 4th gear, for some reason it was way lower than normal and boost & TQ fell off quickly not to mention HP was almost non-existent. Unfortunately I was only able to do it once due to location and time but I will follow up with more in this thread. You can click on different data to view in the datazap webpage but at the end of the day this is from TorquePro so alot of info is missing due to the lack of processor speed of the BT MX dongle.


datazap.me | STdriver17 | Log 1635710736
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#2 · (Edited)
I should add I've been normally peaking at 250 HP & 285 TQ, with the occasional 265 HP & 325 TQ

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I have no experience with tuning and next to none deciphering of this type of data, but as you mentioned- I've also read that Torque Pro does not provide a thorough data set on parameters, and that hardware designed to display and record this type of information is required to really see what is happening. I have used Torque Pro (a few years ago with an MX Bluetooth dongle that I used to interface with Forscan) and I thought it was really quite inclusive and impressively responsive, but in hindsight nothing like what you see using a Cobb Accessport (I know you cannot use an AP3 with the Ford Performance tune).

Is there a different type of device / software that you can use (one that plugs into the OBD port directly) to take a look at the metrics resulting from the Ford Performance tune?
 
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I think another problem is that the car is a turd when going WOT at 1800 RPM in 4th gear like they recommend to start a dyno pull on the road. Too much load, backpressure & heat generation by the time you finally reach 4500 RPM, sure you push the boost up high initially but it feels like it struggles to get going and my charge temps quickly went up by ~ +40 F. This tune is great in 3rd gear from a 3500 RPM roll. Obviously 1st and 2nd are also tire smokers but really non functional on a highwy run.
 
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I think another problem is that the car is a turd when going WOT at 1800 RPM in 4th gear like they recommend to start a dyno pull on the road.
Whoever "they" happen to be, you need to stop listening to them. Never WOT below 3,000 rpm in these cars, its amazing you havent scattered this thing!!!

You've been around this place long enough, you've seen LSPi talked about. Please dont ever do that again.
 
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Our sticky from 2014 states 2500rpm, but the automotive industry didnt quite understand what a bear LSPi was back then. General rule is 3000rpm for safety, not at all in 5th or 6th (unless you're doing triple digits)
 
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I deleted that 7 year old BS, before some other clown pops a motor doing 1800 rpm pulls in 4th.

Literally the worst information for our platform.

Wtf man. Who would listen to that?

LOW SPEED PRE IGNITION!!!!!

It's not a ****ing joke.
 
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They both say on the road in addition to dyno heck the one says to shift from 2nd to 4th and youll be at 1800 rpm and go wot
 
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I was conerned about lspi too but after resding several of them i figured 4th was not an issue hell even frpp posts their graph of max tq at ~ 2800... where the hell are u gonna use that?
 
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They came up in a search for ign corr pids lol
 
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Well thankfully i didnt have any bad knock from the sensors and i run top tier 93 so i wont be doing that again ;)
 
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So, while I havent had any symptoms since the 1800 RPM lugging, is there anything I need to check for possible damage (low compression, plugs. etc) or look for going forward or am I in the clear at this point??
 
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Well, a few people in the engine failure resource thread say they were just driving along when their engine lost a cylinder, which indicates to me that they had probably cracked a piston previously, but not all the way through, so it held compression for a certain period of time before totally failing.

No external test will tell you this, though. I'd imagine if no symptoms appear after a tank or two of fuel, you're probably in the clear.