It would have been nice to know what FAILED. Engine Failure could have been 1 in 1000's of things

 

Was any attempt made to flash back to factory settings. That could be hard if the car were not drive-able and no time could be logged in the ECU to possibly "cover" that it had been tuned. Just wondering how deep into the ECU they are looking.

 

What he told me was the the turbo was blown and there was some damage to the engine. I don't know all the details which is why I hoped we could also hear Steeda's side of the story.

About flashing back to stock, I have no idea but I would assume probably not.

 

first of many?

 

Not a lot of information to go off and on top of that there's three sides to every story. I don't see what Steeda has to gain from replying to this thread.

 

Seriously? Let me list a few:

- confirm or deny the story. I don't blindly trust anybody, so I believe to what the dealership guy told until proved wrong. If they lied to me I think Steeda has every interest in letting the community know.

- if they confirm the story, they could give us more details about what was damaged and why Ford blamed the tune

- since Steeda was very clear about how much they design the tune to operate in safety and that they never had a tune-related failure, I think it's just fair to chime in and comment on this.

 

If it was that bad a failure it probably had to be towed to the dealer and he may have not had his tuner with him. That's why I always keep mine with me... just in case.

 

Talk to the alleged owner of the engine failure FST. You should be able to get the real story there if its even true!

 

3g doesn't sound like a motor went. It would be interesting to get the whole story. And, come on guys, if you have a tune in there, don't try and make the rest of us pay for your screw up.

 

I'm with you, maybe turbo go boom or spun a bearing? A new long block would be more than $3k

 

When I go back to pick up my car I'll see if I can get more details, but I doubt they'll give me the contact info of the owner.

 

My thoughts... whatever went wrong was going to go wrong with or without the tune. The tune just pushed it a bit harder which caused the failure to occur sooner than later. There are literally hundreds running tunes from all the different suppliers and we haven't heard anything about a failure... Sucks for the owner who either couldn't get to his tuner or didn't think to flash before taking it in...

 

Highly unlikely they would be able to pin the problem on the tune unless somehow they were data logging at the time of failure and found a condition outside of the ford programming parameters. In any case there have been cases of blown turbos on stock ST's. Blown turbos happen all the time on many different cars. Who knows until you hear the owner's story. Maybe the owner screwed with the settings on the tuning device like set the rev limit to 8000. My car now has 10k on Torrie's tune.

 

I feel sorry for the owner too. The ironic thing is all of the marketing hype, the videos Ford has released showing the ST racing against it's competition, the whole Tanner Foust thing, I could go on and on. They are marketing it as a performance car, putting videos out for public consumption showing professional drivers beating on the car in warehouses, abandoned subdivisions, etc., and then if what the OP is claiming is true, they're going to not honor the warranty? Let's bait the consumer, show drivers driving the piss out of the car, and then when someone does something to up the performance from stock, let's leave them hanging. :LAME:

 

Threads like these are fail baits and offer little value in the form of facts, circumstances or details.

 

Unfortunately true.


Also, if the turbo went there have been people with blown turbos on stock cars and other vendor's tunes. If the guy holed a piston then that'd be a first, but wiping the turbo and needing new charge piping and FMIC isn't new.

 

I'm curious to know the details. Not that I'm really worried about it. Definitely seems like an isolated incident. Isn't Ford performance parts supposed to be coming out with a "power kit" with a tune to increase power while retaining the warranty?

 

2.0 Liter EcoBoost Engine Has $8,000 MSRP - EngineLabs

http://www.fordracingparts.com/parts/part_details.asp?PartKeyField=22999

 

2.0 Liter EcoBoost Engine Has $8,000 MSRP - EngineLabs

2.0L I-4 ECO-BOOST ENGINE KIT | Part Details for M-6007-20T* | Ford Racing Performance Parts

Anything from Ford Racing is going to be at MSRP. Other on line dealers will discount...

 

All of the tunes I've looked at are very quick to note you must use AT LEAST the octane you are tuned for. At least 91 or 93; if the owner forgot or a friend filled the car with 87 like it says on the filler door ...

 

Somehow I think Steeda will chime in. They always seem quick to pat themselves on the back.

 

Wow, anyone else need to throw a burger on this flame? (I like mine medium rare, BTW) What I wanted to do was have the OP get some direct facts posted about this allegation before it goes viral. Long time forum members will know what I'm talking about when it comes to various tunes in the past. Someone that knows someone whose cousin saw this and knows a guy down the street doesn't necessarily prove a fact. I would believe that the tech was more about trying to spread rumor or scare the OP out of doing any mods more than anything else. There's been a few reported failure repairs done to vehicles that have had a tune but the tune wasn't detected and the tune wasn't proven to be the problem. (Won't mention forum members to protect their privacy!) All I'm trying to say is get some facts before posting here in the forum since the responses can be brutal. I'm all about getting info out about potential issues but that info has to be from a reliable source.

 

I didn't see anything brutal about the responses or the skepticism. of course people are going to jump off the deep end and call people liars and try to justify an excuse of how its something else. find out what you can when you pick your car up. post what you hear. if you hear again that it was steeda's tune and they footed half the check then the least they could do is say a word or two on the forum about it. I find it very hard to believe that any tune put on this ecu wont leave a foot print

 

I've prepped everyone for this. Since there's no emotion in what's typed, there is an issue with people's interpretation of these responses. Trust me, its coming and someone will misread a response.

 

he did ask for tj from steeda to elaborate on a rumor that he heard.

 

You had all the details, you heard it from the tech that heard it from another tech that heard it from the guy that sweeps the floor that heard it from the car wash guy that heard it from the office girl that did a warranty claim for a Focus SE.
What more do you need

 

Here's your sign and here it comes! focus pilot.

 

nevermind.

 

8 Grand.

2.0L I-4 ECO-BOOST ENGINE KIT | Part Details for M-6007-20T* | Ford Racing Performance Parts

M600720T 2.0L ECOBOOST ENGINE KIT

6.4 grand

Ford Repair Parts - Part #:

6 grand

 

:facepalm:

 

ugh! my feelings!

 

If a response was desired from Steeda, why not post a comment in their vendor forum. I'm willing to bet they check their own threads regularly; they may not even know that this one exists. Just a thought...I get one once in a while.