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Here's a pic of the first 3-D Printed Snorkel. Those of you who have been following the development of this project will know that they key goal has always been: Reduce the Price. Whether or not 3-D Printing can be used to produce the lowest cost option is still an open question. But, it has become the "go to" first step, regardless of the final production method chosen.

Here, we've been able to produce a prototype than has given valuable insight on the design performance as well as giving us the opportunity to perfect the fit. This prototype revealed five issues that need to be addressed. Three of those issues are shown in the annotated photos. Two others involve proprietary information that center on how we've attacked our goal of reducing the cost. The tape you see is there to protect the proprietary method of joining the two parts of the Snorkel. You can see that we've chosen to split the Snorkel vertically as opposed to Ford's decision to split it horizontally. This single development will reduce the cost substantially.

All that aside, the two questions I get most often are: "When?", and "How Much?". And usually not in that order. What I can say is this, provided that the cost goal can be met; there's no reason that it should be more than four or five weeks out. It could be a little sooner. And, I can now say that the initial pricing looks promising. At least 25% less than the current option. And, you don't have to pay $60 for a filter you may not need. JP
 

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I'm very impressed, the steps to get here are not easy.

Good job!
Thanks Flora. I appreciate that you recognize just how much work and capital goes into developing a new product. JP
 

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Did you design this, or scan the ford one? Interesting.
This is a new design Jess. There is a larger flare at the intake, and that flat spot on the underside of the intake will allow for a high density foam support that rides on the crash bar cover. The Ford support system was not well thought out. The attachment end has been redesigned as well. The original intake was very small and light and was easily held in place by two push type retainers. In order to accommodate those retainers, Ford had to use very thin material on their Snorkel. I felt that that was not sufficient to hold a much larger, and heavier Snorkel. There are many other changes that were developed to reduce the price. That was my ultimate goal. Thanks, JP
 

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Looking good. I'll take mine in tangerine scream rather than blue lol.
TNG, you know I never thought about that. I just figured everyone would want black. But, who knows?

I wanted to PM you in a few days for some thoughts on retainer clips. OK? JP
 

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Simply impressive work Rocket! I will attempt (my time constraints and laziness being the issue) to send you a PM with attached photos of what I have been working on in recent weeks. Eerily similar ideas ........
 

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Simply impressive work Rocket! I will attempt (my time constraints and laziness being the issue) to send you a PM with attached photos of what I have been working on in recent weeks. Eerily similar ideas ........
I really look forward to that Tin Man. I was hoping you had continued your work. Thanks for your support. JP
 

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Looks fantastic. The benificial part of 3D Printing, is that you can get quite a color array of extruded resin/ABS. I'm looking forward to the final design, turn around times and final pricing.
Looks promising ;)
 

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Nice progress! It's nice to see someone so open with the design progress.

Well done man. I may sell my FRPP snorkel and buy yours.
 

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Looks awesome! I can't wait to pick one up. All of this makes me wish I didn't pick such a boring career path, I wouldn't even know where to start with something like this, looks complicated though.
 

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Looks awesome! I can't wait to pick one up. All of this makes me wish I didn't pick such a boring career path, I wouldn't even know where to start with something like this, looks complicated though.
You're right matt, it is a complicated process. 3-D printing makes it possible to keep refining the product with each iteration. And you can make a few mistakes without hocking your house. There were five significant errors on this print. If that had happened fifteen years ago with a hand tooled mold, it would have been a $10,000 mistake instead of a $500 "learning experience". JP
 
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