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I didn't want to post something that would cause damage so I deleted the post. I called the VP tech today and was assured that it will in fact not cause damage if used in moderation. It is a MMT based product. Anyhow we used the VP Octanium last night in @StormTrooperST Procharged Mustang. We did the test within 10 minutes and the results are clear. First I've never been a octane booster kinda guy but this stuff works great. We did a log on straight 91 the went to the gas station, dumped it in and filled the car. It says it treats up to 10 gallons but our test were done with 16 gallons. I dont know about the cobb but on the SCT when the knock sensor is negative it will take more timing. When it goes positive it's pulling timing. This tune is maxed out timing wise at 18.5 degrees. On 91 it pulled timing up top and with the octanium it just wanted more. Good thing about this stuff is it's available at Autozone.

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The Tuning School got similar results on a Procharger on a C7 Vette.

Still not as good as MS 109 or even 40% E85 or C85 which even did better mixed with 93 @ 40%.

VP has a rep to keep in-check so they wouldn't release a product that didn't work.
 
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The Tuning School got similar results on a Procharger on a C7 Vette.

Still not as good as MS 109 or even 40% E85 or C85 which even did better mixed with 93 @ 40%.

VP has a rep to keep in-check so they wouldn't release a product that didn't work.
Funny you say that because that's exactly what the tech said to me today. He said it took them so long to put it on the market because they wanted to make sure it worked. i wonder what it'll do with 10 gallons compared to the 16 we used
 

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Race Gas is $30
Boostane (tested by The Tuning School) is $25
Torco Accelerator $20 direct from them
NOS Race Formula (proven 2-3 bump) is $9 at Wal-Mart
Lucas Octane Booster - $10-12
Royal Purple Octane Booster - $12

I have used the last four before. Torco works just as well and was the first on the market to be sold as a race fuel concentrate.

If you want a cost comparison -

Locally I can get Trick 101 at the pump for $8.79 a gallon.
One 32oz can of Torco runs $20.95 direct and treats up to 10 gallons if you want 101 octane using 91 octane as a base. - http://torcoracefuel.net/2-docs/accelerator-blend-chart.pdf

Assuming you would only use for track days which makes sense, as any other time wouldn't; you can make two five gallon jugs of 101 octane fuel at the cost of half a can (@$11) + 91 octane which according to Gas Buddy in Reseda is $2.99 a gallon.

$2.99 x 5 = $14.95 + $11 = $25.95 or $5.19 a gallon for 101 octane fuel.

If the VP product was similar, it would roughly cost the same for the same results.

The main advantage it's available at Autozone.

IMHO this is only a temporary solution as you would get even better results with water-methanol injection. Again proven by The Tuning School with 93 as a base fuel, they made more power than every racing gas they tested, even C16 which required a major re-tune to increase the ignition timing (slow burning).


However the problem with using 50/50 on the stock turbo in the Focus ST is that the majority of your gains in your tune comes from advanced timing allowances.

I was able to get 22-23 degrees of advance when it's working. Obvious Steve has only seen it when it wasn't...]

Much larger gains will come from advancing the timing AND increasing boost, only possible with an upgraded turbo on this platform. The often mentioned and popular GTX 2867 has no problem making 400+ on a combination of pump gas and 50/50 injection.

You can also use 50/50, Pure Methanol (M1) or Methanol with a kick (Nitromethane = M3). Snow offers a special blend of Nitromethane that will mix with boost juice as normally it will separate when it makes contact with water.

The main advantage to that is you now have two o2 carrying molecules being injected into the engine. Nitro also slows down the burn rate, so the PCM should respond with aggressive timing advance.

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You should really put a Snow or AEM kit on Storm's Mustang, you'll crack 800 hp NO PROBLEM. Then that thing needs to see the track. Speed By Design got their car to go I think 9.80 or something with their twin turbo system.

Get M&H drag radial for that and go up to Famoso for Street Tuner the first one is in May. You can race my buddy Chris' CTS-V that recently ran [email protected]
 
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