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How’d you like that inner tie rod puller tool? Did it work out great & easily for you?
 
Awesome work and hustle so far!
I see you over there with 17 mpg....🥴
How's it pull? Haha
 
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How’d you like that inner tie rod puller tool? Did it work out great & easily for you?
It definitely did the job. It's not exactly the easiest getting the two halves in place and getting the nuts started, but no trouble at all getting them loose. The usual tool that slips over the tie rod doesn't work as there's no flat spot to wrench on, and in my case, I couldn't get the outer tie rod ends off.

If you're using it without disassembling as much as I did, make sure you have extensions to get the ratchet out past the brake rotor/hub.
 
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Awesome work and hustle so far!
I see you over there with 17 mpg....🥴
How's it pull? Haha
Let's just say it's quite lively. So far, that's all running around town, and actually better than it was getting with the old power train. And I've been surprised how quiet and smooth it is--I put in a new transmission mount (old one had some minor tearing), and a new Focus Electric torque strut, so I was expecting to feel more vibration.

We'll get a good feel for interstate cruising economy this weekend. I just reset the trip 2 stats that had been counting since we bought the thing, and I'm optimistic we'll beat it's 23.4 mpg average--or at least have a lot of fun getting about the same.
 
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@Duff i used this one on mine. Less cumbersome to get installed since its used as-assembled.

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That does look like it would have been easier. Is it big enough to slide over the outer end?

I was expecting to have easy access to put a wrench on the inner joint right up until I pulled the boots back while the engine was out. The new tie rods ends had the flats, so it was a surprise when I got in there. It took several attempts locally to find the one I bought (and I'll readily admit I paid too much)--but it needed done before the new engine and stuff went in, and I'd only rented the engine hoist for a week.

Now I've got to decide whether I should buy that one from Summit next time I drive by one of their locations, or bet on never having to mess with them again...
 
That does look like it would have been easier. Is it big enough to slide over the outer end?

I was expecting to have easy access to put a wrench on the inner joint right up until I pulled the boots back while the engine was out. The new tie rods ends had the flats, so it was a surprise when I got in there. It took several attempts locally to find the one I bought (and I'll readily admit I paid too much)--but it needed done before the new engine and stuff went in, and I'd only rented the engine hoist for a week.

Now I've got to decide whether I should buy that one from Summit next time I drive by one of their locations, or bet on never having to mess with them again...
Well, i never tried. I replaced both my inners so i had the outers off. Even if you had one loosen and you were just trying to snug it back up, its going to change your alignment so you'd need the outer at least broke loose anyway, might as well take it totally off.
 
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Well, i never tried. I replaced both my inners so i had the outers off. Even if you had one loosen and you were just trying to snug it back up, its going to change your alignment so you'd need the outer at least broke loose anyway, might as well take it totally off.
You must be somewhere that stays warm and dry! I didn't try too hard since I was replacing inner and outer, but I wasn't having any luck getting the outers loose. And that's on a vehicle that lived in northern Georgia until last winter.
 
You must be somewhere that stays warm and dry! I didn't try too hard since I was replacing inner and outer, but I wasn't having any luck getting the outers loose. And that's on a vehicle that lived in northern Georgia until last winter.
I live Right in the rust belt of northeast ohio. My car came from texas, though. I use a cutting torch (AKA blue wrench) to get rusty hardware cherry red in order to get it free for normal crusty car instances.
 
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It was a long day today--with family stuff yesterday, I got up this morning to change the oil before loading up for the trip. It should be no surprise that Hercules tightened the drain plug on the new engine, or that the intercooler meant that I couldn't get the same grip on the filter that I had when putting it on. Neither a big deal, just more exertion than I was prepared for before the sun was up.

The trip was mostly into strong head and crosswinds, so it's not a good barometer for fuel mileage (and we left later than planned, so there may or may not have been some elevated speeds when it wasn't pouring rain). But 525 miles later we arrived. No breakdowns, no check engine light, just the wheel bearing/axle noise that was there when we started.
 
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Nice work! I'd be nervous to do all that work then hit the road.
You're not alone. We definitely spent a lot of time asking "Is that a new noise or just the pavement?"
 
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Hopefully later today I'll get a chance to start filling in the details on parts, wiring, and software.
 
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Hopefully later today I'll get a chance to start filling in the details on parts, wiring, and software.
Please do as I’m contemplating this exact thing. Oem 1.6 trans is garbage and it’s toast , a rebuild is 6k from a legit shop with updates.
Plus rebuilt is garbage as they don’t fix inherit issues.
 
Quick update on the ambient air temperature issue--a few days ago while trying to figure out what was going on, I measured resistance on the TC's temperature sensor. It matched up with the Focus resistance for about -40 degrees, even though the same chart suggested that the TC should have the same scale. Trying to find a Focus sensor locally wasn't getting me anywhere, and an online order would have had me spending $30-60 and still needing a connector.

The local salvage yard had a Focus mirror, which contains the temperature sensor. I cannibalized the mirror (in other words, I disassembled it as far as I could, then pulled out a cutting wheel on the Dremel...) to get the sensor. Despite the schematics (which show a 2-pin connector on the sensor itself), it's a little guy that's wired directly to the main mirror connector. I cut it out, put the bare wire ends into the TC's connector, and we now have a proper outside temperature reading. I'll make it more permanent and then hopefully get the AC recharged today or tomorrow.

I also got the clutch switch wiring hooked up this morning, so we have a working starter inhibit and cruise control deactivation, which means that cruise control now works. I intend to put a few more miles on it today and tomorrow before changing the oil. Road trip starts in ~60 hours. It almost seems like we might be ready for it--fingers crossed!
Hey, I'm that other guy! Glad you got it figured out - do you know if the temperature sensor is as simple as being a resistor that varies with temp (so can be wired in the circuit either way)? I've double checked my wiring and am now thinking that the problem is the sensor itself as well. I found that Peugeot part no. 6445F9 is the same as the Ford embedded sensor, so I have one on order, but since the sensor is just two black pigtails I don't know which way to connect it...
 
Hey, I'm that other guy! Glad you got it figured out - do you know if the temperature sensor is as simple as being a resistor that varies with temp (so can be wired in the circuit either way)? I've double checked my wiring and am now thinking that the problem is the sensor itself as well. I found that Peugeot part no. 6445F9 is the same as the Ford embedded sensor, so I have one on order, but since the sensor is just two black pigtails I don't know which way to connect it...
It's called a Thermistor; it should not mater what way you install it.
 
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Hey, I'm that other guy! Glad you got it figured out - do you know if the temperature sensor is as simple as being a resistor that varies with temp (so can be wired in the circuit either way)? I've double checked my wiring and am now thinking that the problem is the sensor itself as well. I found that Peugeot part no. 6445F9 is the same as the Ford embedded sensor, so I have one on order, but since the sensor is just two black pigtails I don't know which way to connect it...
Yep--it's just a thermistor, and polarity doesn't matter. I never did find a table showing correct resistance values for the stock TC thermistor, and the -40F reading was consistent with the resistance I measured and what should have been -40F for the Focus.

I know I'm long overdue for an update--we spent Saturday putting in brand new axles and wheel bearings, and then drove it 600 miles yesterday. The passenger side wheel bearing was definitely bad, the jackshaft bearing didn't seem bad, but the noise sounded like it was coming from the transmission end of the axle--I had been concerned that the output shaft bearing in the transmission was bad, but that doesn't seem to be the case.

I'm still planning to tackle the instrument cluster swap, but it's going to be a little more involved than I'd hoped. Still trying to track down a part number for the "visor" and will need to trim the mounting tabs at the bottom, but the hold up right now is the connector is MIA. Mouser and others carry it, but it's seemingly on backorder everywhere until sometime next year.
 
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Yep--it's just a thermistor, and polarity doesn't matter. I never did find a table showing correct resistance values for the stock TC thermistor, and the -40F reading was consistent with the resistance I measured and what should have been -40F for the Focus.

I know I'm long overdue for an update--we spent Saturday putting in brand new axles and wheel bearings, and then drove it 600 miles yesterday. The passenger side wheel bearing was definitely bad, the jackshaft bearing didn't seem bad, but the noise sounded like it was coming from the transmission end of the axle--I had been concerned that the output shaft bearing in the transmission was bad, but that doesn't seem to be the case.

I'm still planning to tackle the instrument cluster swap, but it's going to be a little more involved than I'd hoped. Still trying to track down a part number for the "visor" and will need to trim the mounting tabs at the bottom, but the hold up right now is the connector is MIA. Mouser and others carry it, but it's seemingly on backorder everywhere until sometime next year.
Cool, thanks for the confirmation. It is wired in correctly then so I ordered a new one. Fingers crossed.
 
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Please do as I’m contemplating this exact thing. Oem 1.6 trans is garbage and it’s toast , a rebuild is 6k from a legit shop with updates.
Plus rebuilt is garbage as they don’t fix inherit issues.
In some ways, the 1.6L will be easier (things like the active grille shutters are present and connected to the engine bay harness already), but there's a lot that will need to be replaced beyond what I did. The alternator, starter, and compressor are all different--they come out anyways, but will obviously add to the total cost.

I have added a bunch of parts info to the main post, though I still have work to do on the descriptions.
 
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So my next step is trying to eek out better fuel mileage with taller gears. With about 4,000 miles on the swap so far, I'm averaging about 1 mpg worse than before overall (21.1 mpg), and actually seem to be getting about the same mileage in town and in steady interstate cruising. The last two tanks across the midwest were below 20, with the cruise set at 80 for almost all of it. I know the TC isn't the most aerodynamic thing on the road, but it's also not terribly less aerodynamic than other minivans with larger displacement and larger frontal area--so I think it can do better. This thing should be able to beat a GM U-van--I could regularly get 27 mpg out of its 3.4L V6. I wouldn't complain so much if I also had a U-van's 25-gallon fuel tank, but the worse mileage and smaller tank add up to half the range, to where it seems like you're always looking for the next gas stop.

Right now I'm looking at using an MMT6 from one of the diesel variants used in Europe, either the ST-D or the Mondeo. There seems to be a slight discrepancy in the gear ratios published, but first gear would be just slightly shorter than the US ST's first gear (13.65 instead of 13.11), but taking bigger steps toward an overall 6th gear ratio that's 80% of the ST. That would result in 4th gear having the same ratio as the ST's 5th gear, and 80 mph in 6th gear would come at 2300 rpm instead of just under 3000.

This should get me closer to where the Escape is geared with the same engine (it would be another 100 rpm slower at 80 in top gear), and hopefully get closer to the Escape's fuel economy on the open road. There are a decent number of ~25 mpg reports for the Escape, even in AWD form, on fueleconomy.gov. I'd be happy with that on the highway, which would at least make 300-mile fueling intervals reasonable.

Assuming I pull the trigger and buy another transmission, and wait however long it takes to get here, I'll still have some work to do. I'll have to take the bellhousing half of my existing MMT6 and mate it to the new transmission, or swap out the gearsets in my existing case with the new ones. That's uncharted territory for me, so any pointers there are welcome. If it's all going to be apart, it might also be the time to consider a Quaife (or other torque-biasing) differential. Axles, shifter cables, exhaust bracket, and the like should all carry over. The only alternative I can think of to avoid tearing into the transmission is to try to mount the diesel's starter to the diesel transmission, hoping that there's clearance to the block and that the flywheel ring gears are the same.
 
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