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Im in the market for new tires for my 13 st Looking for some suggestions running stock size Ive always heard good things about pilot super sports but also seeing good things about the firestone firehawk indy 500 tire. Car is running a stage 2 so id like something that provides good grip as i do drive hard
 

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I've got the pilot super sports and can definetly recommend them. I am also running stage 2. The traction is better than the stock tires and in the wet they're about just as good as all season continental extreme contact DWS06 tires!

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for a street car that isnt competitive on track the PSS cant be beat
 

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Im in the market for new tires for my 13 st Looking for some suggestions running stock size Ive always heard good things about pilot super sports but also seeing good things about the firestone firehawk indy 500 tire. Car is running a stage 2 so id like something that provides good grip as i do drive hard
If you are keeping the stock rims or rim width at 8 inches, I cannot recommend enough that you step the tire up to a 245 width. Buy once, cry once. If you are going to invest in MPSS, then make sure you are getting the most traction for your dollar.
 
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You're looking for summer tires in Calgary, I assume you have a dedicated set of winter tires? Hope so.

All of the tires mentioned thus far by you and others are great tires. Short of being a professional driver, you wont find too much difference between them.
 

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I just put on a set of Continental ExtremeContact Sport tires. I was going to purchase the MPSS. The Continentals just came out in February and were well reviewed for wet handling; I decided to give them a try. Only a 100 or so miles on them at the moment, but I have been impressed by wet and dry handling (definitely an improvement over the stock goodyears). They are also pretty quiet. So far they have been a solid DD tire. Obviously I need more miles before I know entirely how well I like them, but good so far.
 
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This subject makes the rounds every couple months, but here goes. The Firestones are lower rated than the best-rated Michelin SS tires, but they're roughly half the cost. If you're wearing thru your tires in 20-25k miles then you should either be very dedicated to your choice of a $1000 set of tires or switch to tires that last longer. I switched to all-seasons and am not going back. The Michelin AS3's are the best rated AS tires with a warranty. However, there are others that are nearly as good for half the cost. Look at the Laufenn S Fit AS tire which you can get at Pep Boys for half the cost of Michelin tires, $500 including mounting and optional hazard warranty. You lose some of the all-out traction of the summer UHP tires but you generally gain about another 10k miles and better cold weather performance. More discussion here; http://www.focusst.org/forum/focus-st-wheels-tires/63042-anyone-switch-all-seasons.html
 

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I dont think id switch to a all season as i drive a dedicated winter tire. The goodyears for me lasted about 40 000 miles
 

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I dont think id switch to a all season as i drive a dedicated winter tire. The goodyears for me lasted about 40 000 miles
How long is your season that summer tires are even useable? I have thought about a summer set but even in Massachusetts I'd only get like 3 months of them a year, not worth it IMO. Went with the AS3's and couldn't believe the improvement over the stock f1's. Much better handling and road feel. I understand being hesitant if you have a winter set up already, but with summer tires losing a lot of ability when the temps drop under 50 degrees, how long will you be able to use them? If you don't care and want to rip it up for a few months go for it, just my $.02
 
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I run summers from april till october...
Even with what LockeLamora said, I still think a set of summers is the best bet because summer or all season doesn't matter when they both suck in anything other than a dusting of snow/ice/etc. Might as well just get the summers and rip for the few months you can then live on winters because all seasons would just mean you add a month or two of use but sacrifice the grip/fun that you'd get with top summer rated tires. I vote MPSS just because they are widely and most recommended for a reason. Tested hard and true and beating all the others year after year. This April* (don't quote that) Michelin is releasing a new tire to replace the MPSS so expect discounts to follow. I might be waiting until then myself to see what kind of discounts are available.

Oh, and all-seasons have the nickname of "no-seasons" stereotypically and I agree with that conclusion lol. Okay in winter okay in summer but not great in either.
 

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Even with what LockeLamora said, I still think a set of summers is the best bet because summer or all season doesn't matter when they both suck in anything other than a dusting of snow/ice/etc. Might as well just get the summers and rip for the few months you can then live on winters because all seasons would just mean you add a month or two of use but sacrifice the grip/fun that you'd get with top summer rated tires. I vote MPSS just because they are widely and most recommended for a reason. Tested hard and true and beating all the others year after year. This April* (don't quote that) Michelin is releasing a new tire to replace the MPSS so expect discounts to follow. I might be waiting until then myself to see what kind of discounts are available.

Oh, and all-seasons have the nickname of "no-seasons" stereotypically and I agree with that conclusion lol. Okay in winter okay in summer but not great in either.
I get what you are saying here, but I will say my AS3's feel much better than my stock summers. So not ALL tires are automatically better because they are "summer tires". I am sure the MPSS have a better grip though and maybe when I run these out I'll give them a shot!
 

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I get what you are saying here, but I will say my AS3's feel much better than my stock summers. So not ALL tires are automatically better because they are "summer tires". I am sure the MPSS have a better grip though and maybe when I run these out I'll give them a shot!
The biggest plus for me is the fact that people are getting as good/better treadwear on the PSS's as the F1s (Mine are dead at 23k miles) so the price to improve traction big time without reducing life is cool to me for the price. Now I wanna see the discounts roll out from the new PS4 tire
 

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The biggest plus for me is the fact that people are getting as good/better treadwear on the PSS's as the F1s (Mine are dead at 23k miles) so the price to improve traction big time without reducing life is cool to me for the price. Now I wanna see the discounts roll out from the new PS4 tire
Got 21k out of my F1's and 27 out of my SS tires. I'll likely get about 30 out of the AS3's. The other benefit of AS tires is reduced wheel hop, especially in the cold and/or wet. It's worth it just for that. And we get so little snow here AS tires are fine.
 
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Pilot Super Sports are absolutely superb. Cannot recommend them enough. Do it. But definitely step up to 245 section width. The MPSS in 245/40R18 has damn near identical physical dimensions to a Goodyear Eagle F1 in 235/40R18.
 

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Pilot Super Sports are absolutely superb. Cannot recommend them enough. Do it. But definitely step up to 245 section width. The MPSS in 245/40R18 has damn near identical physical dimensions to a Goodyear Eagle F1 in 235/40R18.
The F1's and SS's are great tires, no doubt. The AS3's are great as well, but in different ways. I would be the last one to suggest that an all-season tire would give you the same performance as a summer tire. There are trade-offs for both. The AS3's almost never hop and their limits are not quite as high. But they are quieter and ride better. They are a little squirmier than the SS's; meaning when you get close to the limit when cornering the make more squall noise and don't feel as planted (especially when they are new and until they get down to half tread). The traction when accelerating isn't as good but spin is easier to control, and there is almost never wheel hop. I haven't notice a difference when braking, though I am sure there is less traction, I just never stop that hard. Hope that helps you choose.
 
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I apologize for changing the subject slightly--I'm about to purchase a set of Firestone Firehawk Indy 500's since I don't drive the car enough to warranty the PSS price...I have the stock 2013 snowflake wheels, and they'll be fine if I get 245/40R18 tires, right? Just want to confirm before I order them.
 

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I apologize for changing the subject slightly--I'm about to purchase a set of Firestone Firehawk Indy 500's since I don't drive the car enough to warranty the PSS price...I have the stock 2013 snowflake wheels, and they'll be fine if I get 245/40R18 tires, right? Just want to confirm before I order them.
The Firehawks measure 0.3" wider and 0.3" larger OD while having 0.7" greater tread width than OEM Goodyears. Your odometer and speedometer will be just slightly off from the larger OD but they should fit fine.
 
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