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Well, the '14 ST is now coming up on 45,000 miles still on the original Goodyears. It is the wife car but has seen half a dozen autocrosses, usually 12 runs over 2 days, several long trips. I have been running 45/35 F/R to the derision of the forum but the tires are wearing dead even and very square on the shoulders. I have been rotating them front to rear every 10k. Looks like I will be going with Michelin Pilot Super Sports in stock sizes.

The car had the motormount upgrade early on plus a couple of other recalls. No real problems other than wife likes to drag the front on curbs. Brakes are probably half gone. I will probably change plugs at 50k. Oil and filter gets changed at 5k with Mobil 1 5w30. I am thinking about going with the Bilstein suspension kit soon, too.
 

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Wow, that's pretty shocking. I am not hard on my tires at all, and I didn't get 30K on the F1's. They wore evenly enough and I rotated them often, but they had 2mm or less of tread by the end.

I also went with the Super Sports - great tires...I've been very happy with them. They have a lot more grip than the F1's, especially the last 10K miles of their lives, and handle the cold and wet better. I have a '13 and the stock pads were so dusty that I dumped them at 15K miles. I just couldn't handle the snowflakes being gray/black 50 miles after a wash. The new ones have almost 40K and seem to be in pretty good shape still.

Oh one thing about the Super Sports - without any significant change in driving routes or styles, my MPG dropped noticeably (almost 2MPG) with the Super Sports versus the F1s. If max performance for the money is your goal, the Super Sports are a great choice but if you are looking for fuel economy, it's something to think about.
 

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There have been a few posts about tires lately and I don't know how people are getting higher mileage out of the F1's unless it's all freeway miles. I'm at ~17600 miles on the stock tires and they need to be replaced soon (Front are almost done, rear still have some meat left) but I'll end up replacing all four and be more aggressive with rotations I guess.
 

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I'm at 35k miles and am just hitting the wear bar on them. But I need tires for my truck also so these can wait.


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I switch to the newer F1 Asymmetric 3 and upsize to the 245 for my 3rd set. They came out at the first of year. Had them about 3 weeks now. 1set of F1 went 22.5K, 2nd set when 26.5K. Super Sport new design coming late fall '17.

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I switch to the newer F1 Asymmetric 3 and upsize to the 245 for my 3rd set. They came out at the first of year. Had them about 3 weeks now. 1set of F1 went 22.5K, 2nd set when 26.5K. Super Sport new design coming late fall '17.

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Is that a typo, or did you only get 4k on the second set?
 

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Is that a typo, or did you only get 4k on the second set?
I think you misunderstood. He's saying the first set lasted a total of 22.5k miles then the 2nd set lasted an additional 26.5k miles. For a total of 49k miles
 

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That was 2 complete set of 4 tires. They don't last long. Only the Super sport come with tread warranty, 30K.

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21k from the OEM F1's, 27K from the next set of Michelin Super Sports. I have 66k miles on the car, that's almost 20k on my Michelin PS3's and they don't have much miles left. One of the reasons I went with all-seasons was for longer wear but if you're an aggressive driver they are no better than summers. The other reason I went with AS tires is because of their traction characteristics. They break away more gradually under acceleration and this almost eliminates wheel hop, especially when the tries are new. I have a little wheel hop now in wet conditions but for the first 3/4 of their life there was virtually none in cold, wet, whatever.
My OEM brakes lasted 21K miles and I changed them to Hawk pads when I changed the first set of tires. These give much better brake feel and little dust. I also have 40k on them is still about half the life left. I hope I'm making sense; I just got three teeth pulled and two implants under sedation and I'm a little wobbly.
 

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^You'll have less wheel hop with an all season tire because they have softer sidewalls and less traction. You may think the traction is the same or as good but if pushed to their limits they are not going to hold as well. So instead of the tires grabbing and the suspension having to absorb the torque loads the all season tires simply flex and lose traction a littler earlier instead of making the suspension absorb the shock.

8K miles on my F1's and still looking good. :haha:

With the average miles I put on my ST a year I should be good for 4 years or so. Overall I think the F1 is a good performance tire. I think it is a great rain tire.
 

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^You'll have less wheel hop with an all season tire because they have softer sidewalls and less traction. You may think the traction is the same or as good but if pushed to their limits they are not going to hold as well. So instead of the tires grabbing and the suspension having to absorb the torque loads the all season tires simply flex and lose traction a littler earlier instead of making the suspension absorb the shock.

8K miles on my F1's and still looking good. :haha:

With the average miles I put on my ST a year I should be good for 4 years or so. Overall I think the F1 is a good performance tire. I think it is a great rain tire.
I am under no misconception that the traction is the same. Have to say, the summer tires are a little more fun, but it's not always summer. The AS3's are a good tire but they squall if pressed to the point of generating oversteer (one of my favorite things about this car; can you say "completely sideways?") and are definitely sloppier especially the first 5k miles. So, here's my conundrum; I love the summer tires but hate the wheel hop in the rain and cold. I tried several motor mount combos to get rid of the wheel hop but can't live with the NVH, and none of those combo's got rid of that wheel hop completely. Got AS tires and tadah, it's gone. If there is a better solution I'd like to know it.
 
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