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Hey all, interested in switching my 2015 st1 seats out for either a set of st3 leather seats, or I have been looking at seats from Braum racing.

Do the st3 seats perform like aftermarket racing seats? Are they a big bolstering step up from the st1?

When I got the st I figured the bolstering on the st1 seats felt good enough, but it has broken in and is too soft for my liking now.

(I wont be using a harness so that doesnt factor in)

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Hey all, interested in switching my 2015 st1 seats out for either a set of st3 leather seats, or I have been looking at seats from Braum racing.

Do the st3 seats perform like aftermarket racing seats? Yeah, kinda. Are they a big bolstering step up from the st1? Yes.

When I got the st I figured the bolstering on the st1 seats felt good enough, but it has broken in and is too soft for my liking now.

(I wont be using a harness so that doesnt factor in) Those who rode in my car during AutoX agree a harness isn't needed with my ST3 seats. Tighen down the seatbelt and you don't move at all.

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Some input added. :)
 

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The Recaros are far superior hugging seats, but your size & body type are a major factor in these seat's comfort. I'm 5-9 160# and the seats are the most supportive OEM seats I've ever had. That being said, if you have a thicker build, I would think they would be too tight.

Having autocrossed in leather seats before, I greatly prefer cloth to prevent sliding on smooth leather, so I suggest ST2 seats. But thats just my own preference.
 

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I laughed my ass off. I have done that and since that day I've exited and entered the car an entirely different way.

@brian60 thanks for the feedback, helpful!
Sure thing man, unless you are a bigger framed person like previously mentioned you'll love the ST3 seats after a week or two of getting used to them! I know I do, favorite seats I've ever been in. And they are sexy looking also if you keep them maintained.
 

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Best. Thread. Evar. LOL also.. to the OP.. I'm 6'0" 215lbs and after about 10k miles my seats were nicely broken in from new.. they VERY tight when new, but after about a ~year/10k miles they break in a bit... for my size, they're prefect... I think everyone on this forum will agree that for road trips they suck.. but for autox or aggressive driving, they're amazing.. even in ST3 w/ full leather.. I personally prefer cloth for 2 reasons, 1 you stick better, 2 they're not hot/cold w/ the climate.. but I wanted st3 features on the '15MY so I am perfectly OK w/ full leather..

an ST1 doesn't have the ability to upgrade to the heated seat functionally does it? IF not.. I'd recommend the ST2 seats for the center cloth support... I really always thought the ST2 seats should have been reversed equip from the ST3 setup.. kind of like the RS w/ the alacantra(sp?) inserts or whatnot
 

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I think everyone on this forum will agree that for road trips they suck
This part here I actually can't agree with. I mean it is almost 100% reliant on body type/size I'm sure, but I've driven 6-7 hours straight and didn't feel as though they were uncomfortable. I could definitely see someone who is shorter/taller disagreeing though, my lower/middle back is perfectly supported to my liking in them, but my taller uncle (I'm 6'1" for reference) didn't agree. He weights like 230. And my girlfriend likes to slightly recline her side for the best support and comfort on longer rides. She's 120lbs and 5'4" or 5'5"
 

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This part here I actually can't agree with. I mean it is almost 100% reliant on body type/size I'm sure, but I've driven 6-7 hours straight and didn't feel as though they were uncomfortable. I could definitely see someone who is shorter/taller disagreeing though, my lower/middle back is perfectly supported to my liking in them, but my taller uncle (I'm 6'1" for reference) didn't agree. He weights like 230. And my girlfriend likes to slightly recline her side for the best support and comfort on longer rides. She's 120lbs and 5'4" or 5'5"
Yea.. case by case I suppose.. I've driven 7+ hrs.. it's not that i'm like dieing when I get out, just that my lower back is sore.. for reference I like to sit rather straight up and I dont feel like the lumbar support(which i have usually maxxed out) is giving enough support.. maybe it's that i'm using too much support.. I dunno.. I'm not an expert like that.. but for me, i'm not fat, i fit well in the seat, just gets uncomfy after 4+ hours..

Who knows.. maybe I'm just old hahaha
 

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If you're under 6' and 200lbs but over 5' 4" and 130lbs, you'll be fine with the Recaros. The partial leather ones will probably keep you from slipping, but if you're partial to the full leather, get one of these for autocrossing.
CG-Lock for Adults - CG-Lock.com

You WON'T move with that in place and locked. Personally guaranteed.
 

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Well, im 6'4"... but under 200#.

I like the full leather, the heated is not something I care about. Nor is the electric adjust. Thats why I was looking into braum (still am, unsure)

Think there are better options for tall folks?
 

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I got to take some focuses out on the track, one had the st1 cloth seats. For the cost difference to buy a ST with the leather recaros, I say its not worth the difference for the minor improvement, imo. I have autox and road raced with cars that have had fixed race seats and autoxing in the cloth ST1 seats are just fine. I dont have any issues sliding around. My only complaint is the textured grey fabric on the seat cushion bothers me on longer drives as my legs move on the seat. I have a stockier build so maybe I just need to lose weight. lol
 

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This part here I actually can't agree with. I mean it is almost 100% reliant on body type/size I'm sure, but I've driven 6-7 hours straight and didn't feel as though they were uncomfortable. I could definitely see someone who is shorter/taller disagreeing though, my lower/middle back is perfectly supported to my liking in them, but my taller uncle (I'm 6'1" for reference) didn't agree. He weights like 230. And my girlfriend likes to slightly recline her side for the best support and comfort on longer rides. She's 120lbs and 5'4" or 5'5"
Same here, normal seats kill my back. 6' and 220#. Also, you have to have the seat set like it was intended to be, a race seat. Go to Recaro's site to learn how to adjust your seat. Once you do that, they are comfortable.
 

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If you're under 6' and 200lbs but over 5' 4" and 130lbs, you'll be fine with the Recaros. The partial leather ones will probably keep you from slipping, but if you're partial to the full leather, get one of these for autocrossing.
CG-Lock for Adults - CG-Lock.com

You WON'T move with that in place and locked. Personally guaranteed.
CG locks were great. My issue was that last three years I was regularly tracking my last track toy. It never failed, towards the end of every season the cg lock would literally break apart. the hinge mechanism would literally break apart. I had to replace about 3 in total within 3 seasons or so. No I wasnt being abusvie at all. I made sure it was installed correctly, and used correctly. I like to think that maybe it was the crazy g forces from my evo 8, idk. lol. It is a awesome product I just had issues with them failing mid season.
 
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