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Hey guys,

I know this might sound a little silly but when I bought my ST from the dealer they had a checklist of all the stuff that was in the car, and its options. One that was listed was a full size spare tire and jack kit.

Driving home from Wisconsin (to mass) I went to throw a case of water in the truck and doesn't the floor of the trunk collapse!

Long story, previous owner took it out, dealership never noticed. They're going to reimburse me for the cost of a new spare and jack kit.

However, speaking to a local dealer, we can't agree on the setup of the spare. Ford in my neck of the woods says it's a full size spare but the jack doesn't mount on top on the little foam dish, but Google images says otherwise.

I just want my god damn trunk floor to not taco every time I put something in it.

Can anyone chime in with a picture of the stock st spare kit (I have an '18 if that helps)
 

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I can’t get a photo right now but what you’re seeing on google is correct. It’s a full size spare with the jack in the middle of the tire. The jack sits in a foam insert, and there is a small foam piece that sits on top of the tire after it is screwed down.


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I got an 18' and I'll cop a photo for you.
 

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If you need a whole bottom piece picture I can do that this was just a quick underneath shot, I have some stuff I just need to move,.gimme an hour or so if you need a bigger more revealing photo. But it is a full size and I'm pretty sure the jack mounts in the styrofoam.
 

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Just a fyi, full size means 17" steel with conti all season, not a 18" st rim with goodyear or pirelli.
 

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you can of course fit a full size wheel/tire back there...so if they are just giving you money, i would totally look for a single snowflake take off to run ;) I fit an 18x8.5 255/35 in there in the winter and an 18x8 during the summer (i have brembo's so if i had a front flat, I'd have to rotate a rear wheel up to the front and then put the spare on the rear, so i just keep a proper 18 in the car full time.)
 

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I can’t get a photo right now but what you’re seeing on google is correct. It’s a full size spare with the jack in the middle of the tire. The jack sits in a foam insert, and there is a small foam piece that sits on top of the tire after it is screwed down.


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That's what I thought.

I got an 18' and I'll cop a photo for you.
Thanks!

you can of course fit a full size wheel/tire back there...so if they are just giving you money, i would totally look for a single snowflake take off to run <img src="http://www.focusst.org/forum/images/smilies/wink.png" border="0" alt="" title="Wink" class="inlineimg" /> I fit an 18x8.5 255/35 in there in the winter and an 18x8 during the summer (i have brembo's so if i had a front flat, I'd have to rotate a rear wheel up to the front and then put the spare on the rear, so i just keep a proper 18 in the car full time.)
I thought about that 😂 but I think I'm just gonna get a steelie 17 and the foam cap with jack kit.

Any thoughts on just deleting the spare all together? Like the foam surround that has the amp and stuff? I'll still get the spare and keep it in my garage but just for trunk useability?
 

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Any thoughts on just deleting the spare all together? Like the foam surround that has the amp and stuff? I'll still get the spare and keep it in my garage but just for trunk useability?
Yeah, it is essentially 30 some pounds worth of an anchor over your rear end taking up like 9" of height of perfectly usable space. If you typically dont venture far from home, I'd be ok without running a spare...same if you have some sort of roadside assistance plan.
 

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Any thoughts on just deleting the spare all together? Like the foam surround that has the amp and stuff? I'll still get the spare and keep it in my garage but just for trunk useability?
Yeah, it is essentially 30 some pounds worth of an anchor over your rear end taking up like 9" of height of perfectly usable space. If you typically dont venture far from home, I'd be ok without running a spare...same if you have some sort of roadside assistance plan.
Got it, ill get that foam out asap.

There is still a little dish area where the tire should sit, what do other people fill that up with? Or is the trunk deck strong enough? Right now mines pretty taco'd from having a case of water on it for a month haha
 

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It is not strong at all without support. You need to fill it with something. I keep meaning to find the shallow foam from an SE to replace the taller ST foam so I can leave the spare out and gain back a couple inches of cargo height as the SE's training wheel spare allows the cargo floor to sit lower. I'm probably jinxing myself, but tire inflator has worked for me for about 15 years, probably used an average of once a year. And the last time tire inflator wouldn't do the trick, it was because all my tires were slashed, so a spare wouldn't have done much, either.
 

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Got it, ill get that foam out asap.

There is still a little dish area where the tire should sit, what do other people fill that up with? Or is the trunk deck strong enough? Right now mines pretty taco'd from having a case of water on it for a month haha
The trunk deck is not strong enough as you already know. I had the spare out for a few days (kept the foam) and almost immediately pushed mine in too. Part of the reason i keep my spare in all the time. If you want a carpeted look, you'll have to build something to support the deck lid or fit something else on the floor (aka make new deck lid that fits the lowered space)
 

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Just a fyi, full size means 17" steel with conti all season, not a 18" st rim with goodyear or pirelli.
When I said 18' it was relating to the fact I have the same year car as him, not an 18 inch wheel, I just know it's full size. But I posted the picture I'm not sure if the OP saw it he does need to click on the show the attachment button.
 

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Hey masshole did you find a spare. My car is highly modified and I dont even have my spare in the car. You can have it if you want. I'm in ct but work in ma.
 

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Hey masshole did you find a spare. My car is highly modified and I dont even have my spare in the car. You can have it if you want. I'm in ct but work in ma.
Hey man, i don't need one per say, but I'm more pissed off that the truck deck turns into a U than the fact that I don't have a spare.

I appreciate the offer though, the dealer is paying for it! Let's meet up sometime, I work out of Westover ARB
 

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It is not strong at all without support. You need to fill it with something. I keep meaning to find the shallow foam from an SE to replace the taller ST foam so I can leave the spare out and gain back a couple inches of cargo height as the SE's training wheel spare allows the cargo floor to sit lower. I'm probably jinxing myself, but tire inflator has worked for me for about 15 years, probably used an average of once a year. And the last time tire inflator wouldn't do the trick, it was because all my tires were slashed, so a spare wouldn't have done much, either.
I'll see if I can track one down from the junkyard haha!
 
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