Any help (aside from telling me to disable/turn off the symposer) would be appreciated.

I am quite frustrated if I will have to just have my new car beeping at me every time I park it. I paid for a car with a workign symposer, thats all I want.

http://www.focusst.org/forum/focus-...ocus-st-maintenance/3121-i-think-my-sound-symposer-might-acting-up-beeping.html

Sounds like resetting the ECU (pull the negative batt cable) or yanking the symposer are your best bets.

 

Someone should flood mr ford representative with links to these issues and see what he says. If it's a copy and paste response we should ban him

 

you always come off negative...

 

Drewster- I found that thread when searching, but I am more concerned about the lack of a response to a known issue, and if people have actually gotten ford or a dealer to address this, either via escalation or certain terms used that might point the dealer or ford towards addressing this.

I am just amazed that either the Dealer or FORD itself thinks this is acceptable. If at the least shouldnt there be a temporary fix offered by the dealer? I shouldn't have to do anything on my own to fix a known issue on a car that has 1800 miles.

I might be in the minority, but disabling the sound symposer is not an option that is acceptable to me. Further, shouldn't the dealer offer or FORD offer the reset, even if its just unplugging the battery-- they have the car they should take care of it.

I am just not impressed with FORDs response to this albeit minor issue. Hope its not a indicator of service to come.

Do I need to say anything specific to get action by FORD?

Danny

 

Ford acknowledging that there is a problem is NOT the same thing as Ford having a fix for the issue. If they knew what the problem was and had a fix for it, the dealers would be fixing cars. This is a known issue, Ford is aware of it, and they are (hopefully) working on a fix.

 

Maybe FORD doesn't think it's acceptable, but they haven't completed a fix or a TSB for the symposer issue yet and that's why they instructed the dealer to do nothing.
Well, at least I would hope they're well aware of it by now.

 

Maybe FORD doesn't think it's acceptable, but they haven't completed a fix or a TSB for the symposer issue yet and that's why they instructed the dealer to do nothing. Well, at least I would hope they're well aware of it by now.

This. Last I read ford was trying to sort out issues with the valve malfunctioning and instructed not to service it. The original diagnostic tests were getting a lot of symposers replaced when supposedly it wasn't the issue, only to come back in a few months with the same symptoms.

 

Wait till you have the idle issue then It gets real fun. so far ford has basicly ****ed everyone on honoring a warranty. They basicly tell you too bad deal with a faulty ass car. It's going to come to enough of using getting tired of it and a car that will have a very poor resale and someone with enough money to sue the **** out of them cuz they have the time. I don't and after 4 trips to the dealer and a worse result to my car I said enough is enough and take it to my local mechanic. What's sad is my chick drives a BMW and gets 100 tunes better warranty service then I have ever got. They have put almost anything and everything they can on warranty and I never has to argue with them they usually were quick too. Ever since I took ownership of the car there service from then on has been a joke. I don't see the next few years going well for them. If we have these problems for a premium car imagine how they treat the rest.

 

guys, some of these threads go back over a year with symposer issues. Its not like this a brand new issue. To me FORD appears to be dropping the ball on this issue. How long is it going to take for them to stop acknowledging that there is a problem and actually come out with a solution???

I mean even a band aid or temporary fix would be nice.

How long does it take for them to issue a fix or TSB? Acknowledging is one thing, but actually stepping up and offering a solution is another...

They have had time to at least address this issue in some capacity, as evident by the complaints and symposer issues.

I noticed some of the older threads had people receiving replacement symposers.

How did you guys get replacements, and did they seem to hold up?



Danny

 

Finding and fixing flaws takes time. I would almost guarantee that Ford has not been aware of the issue as long as people on the internet have been complaining about it.

 

Cold weather seems to be a common thing in a lot of the dead faults. Not sure if that applies to the OP.

 

This is the perfect time for the ford rep guy to chime in, hopefully he shows up soon. You can also try pming him.

 

Hey everyone,

If you're currently experiencing issues with your sound symposer, please PM your name, VIN, mileage, dealer, best daytime phone number, and some details on the symptoms you're experiencing; I'll have a look.

Nick

 

Someone should flood mr ford representative with links to these issues and see what he says. If it's a copy and paste response we should ban him

rotflmfao

 

Mine was beeping. Ford dealer replaced the whole symposer. No questions asked.

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I have two friends who are the highest certified Porsche techs that you can achieve. They both moved to New Zealand to work for Porsche because this business will kill your love for automobiles. Only the United States pays on a flat rate system. It started in the Great Depression. So to preserve their careers and love of the brand and automobiles, they left the country for a much better and lucrative offer by a headhunter. They now live in paradise and say they are going to renounce their us citizenship and are there to stay. So if I seem negative when it comes to shady dealership stories well, call me negative. But it's because I'm experienced

 

The part is just for cool noise in the cabin, to be honest just pick up a symposer delete plate and remove the whole thing altogether. Then you don't have to worry about it and I have no codes or soft codes stored after I removed mine.

 

I like the symposer, when it works. I don't want to remove parts that don't work from a car with less than 3k miles on it.

It's more a matter of principal I think. And some people might like the feature. So, let's get a fix? See ford probably doesn't manufacturer the valve. They have a specified acceptable failure rate when contracted. So likely it's the vendor having to scramble for a fix

Exactly.

 

I just unplugged mine and haven't looked back. No codes or issues, would rather hear my exhaust anyways.

 

This is the solution. Ford needs to put out a TSB that removes the sim-POSER and replaces the exhaust with FRPP. That way the only beeping you will here is the censorship of the lawn jockies as you drive by.

 

It's more a matter of principal I think. And some people might like the feature. So, let's get a fix? See ford probably doesn't manufacturer the valve. They have a specified acceptable failure rate when contracted. So likely it's the vendor having to scramble for a fix

 

Its something most all performance related cars are going to receive in the future. This is because drive-by noise emission regulations are tightening. The EPA/Gov want's cars to be electric quiet (For the Children!)

A side effect of that is engines are becoming harder and harder to hear during times when you WANT to hear them. Such as in a race when you are listening to the engine noise for your upshift cue.

So the idea of artificial engine noise isn't going away. BMW pipes it in through the speakers on some models, and artificial engine soundtrack.

I like how the symposer sounds, I don't like the problems its causing, it was the cause of my idle issue. Recently though I've had 1 or 2 cold starts where the idle was all over the place. Personally, I'm fairly close to just buying a symposer delete kit, and a CAI for more engine noise. Screw everyone else.

 

Option to turn it off via IPC would be GRAND!~

 

The dealer disabled mine until he replaced it. No cel light

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There should be a fix coming soon. The FRPP V2 has different software that stops the beeping sound. That same software is suppose to find it way to a SSM or TSB here soon. So I was told by the person is was working on fixing the issue.

 

Kinda like vw and there dsg controller that always fails and is an epic ton of money to replace if its not still under warranty. I they know about it but they will fix it some other time. LOLOLOL

 

Well I hope you actually pm'd the Ford service guy. They actually do help. Usually more than the dealerships.

 

Unless your in Canada!

 

The guy from ford called me today. It's defiantly something they are aware of.

 

Ford corporate probably doesn't want the dealership to Fck with the symposer trying to fix it. No other ford model besides I believe the 302 has a symposer so dealerships are probably ill trained to handle whatever issue is going on with it.

I love the intake noise myself, but (knock on wood) if the symposer starts acting up I'm gonna pull that fcker quicker than a ******* pulls whiskey at a state fair.


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There is a TSB for this issue with no fix as of yet. It says ford engineering is investigating the issue.

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New here, just picked up a '14 ST3 two weeks ago. I hear a very faint beeping noise when the car is off and I open a door (Seems to go on for a few minutes). Is this part of the symposer beep problem or part of the anti-theft system? Is the beeping for the symposer heard while the car is running?

 

Mine does this as well. I'm pretty sure this is just a "warning" that the fob is outside the car. Not really sure though. I don't hear this beep any other times nor do I have any errors.

 

To all. This is a screenshot from Oasis Broadcast messages, which everyone on these forums has free access to.

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LOL, just take it back 4 times in a row or whatever your state requires, then threaten lemon law for coming back consecutive times with the same problem without a fix.

 

This is why dealers are currently instructed not to try and fix the SS issue. Attempting to fix it counts toward the number required for lemon law. If there is no fix and dealers try anyway, there will be a lot of Lemon Law eligible vehicles for no reason.