Who said that? were they also trying to sell any bridges? :haha:

 

Leave it attached. Whoever said that probably sells muffler bearings and blinker fluid as a side job.

 

You'd need to have very stiff springs and dampener valving to unhook the front sway bar on the ST. It would be nice to be able to get a less stiff front sway bar. What you don't want to do is add a stiffer front sway bar to try and cure under steer.
So up to a point less front bar = more front grip.

 

i told him that.....and also if you drain your oil and brake fluid before canyon runs you will be ten times faster...... weight reduction baby!!!!!!

 

Wrong...removes the brakes...they just slow you down.

 

I have JKS quick disconnects on my front sway bar on my 04' Grand Cherokee. But that is a solid front axle, and it's done when you're offroading to increase suspension articulation. But removing it completely, um, no.

 

The only car you want to remove the front stabilizer bar from is a RWD drag car. Case in point.. (stock engine)

 

The only car you want to remove the front stabilizer bar from is a RWD drag car. Case in point.. (stock engine)
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Except slicks n' skinnies, and probably stalled, dumps, and bolt-ons.

That doesn't happen when you remove the swaybar from an otherwise stock RWD car.

 

PS: I can get ya'll a discount on blinker fluid:

:money:

 

PS: I can get ya'll a discount on blinker fluid:
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What about muffler bearings and johnson rod handles? Got any deals on those?

 

This car does not need more oversteer. I think without a front bar, the "snap oversteer" would become "oops broke your neck oversteer"

I can see how it could benefit a pushy fwd car, but the FoST is different than most. This is probably taken out of context from an autox conversation, because you can only alter the front bar in many autox classes whereas most people who want more oversteer would normally add a stiffer rear bar.

 

This car does not need more oversteer. I think without a front bar, the "snap oversteer" would become "oops broke your neck oversteer" I can see how it could benefit a pushy fwd car, but the FoST is different than most. This is probably taken out of context from an autox conversation, because you can only alter the front bar in many autox classes whereas most people who want more oversteer would normally add a stiffer rear bar.

I thought of it as the wheels will be more planted and less understeer I have fortune auto coils but that's only a 7k Spring so it Probobly wouldn't be enough to support the car

 

Yes, there will definitely be less understeer. What I'm saying is that there will be too much/unpredictable oversteer because the car will be out of balance. That is assuming that the fortune auto coil overs didn't cause your car to have understeer with their weird spring rates. Do you have an understeer problem?

 

I felt like I got more understeer but I also was on bald tires so idk. I thought about dropping to a 6k front spring

 

Goes well with cross drilled brake lines.

 

To the OP, I've found this guys explanation to be very well written and easy to understand. Perhaps you'll agree, give it a read.

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To the OP, I've found this guys explanation to be very well written and easy to understand. Perhaps you'll agree, give it a read. Lean Less | Articles |

thank you that cleared things up. Just wish I could get some less front sway bar and stiffer rear springs

 

So i was reading this convo and it got me thinking. I jist bought steeda's stage 1 supension package. Springs and rear sway bar have been installed. Just leaves the front sway bar. Which seems like a ***** to install. So my question is.... is it worth installing?

 

Does the car need more front bar? With those mods, I bet not. It'll cause more understeer which you're fighting anyway being FWD.

 

Yea i figured out my issue with installing it. The jack/lift I have available makes it challenging since it takes up a lot of space. But i dont want to bother with the install especially if it will have nevative results, I dont want to have to take eveything apart all over again. Ill tell you what, not having a garage or tools of my own really makes things challenging some times.

 

Yea i figured out my issue with installing it. The jack/lift I have available makes it challenging since it takes up a lot of space. But i dont want to bother with the install especially if it will have nevative results, I dont want to have to take eveything apart all over again. Ill tell you what, not having a garage or tools of my own really makes things challenging some times.

Got up this morning and thought "what the heck" I'll install that sway bar you sold me, it should only take a couple hours. I took my time and everything was pretty straight forward until I tried to loosen the damn rack bolts. Someone at Ford thought it was cute to practically weld them in and put them in a difficult place to get any kind of grip. Anyway, the estimated 2- 3 hours ended up closer to 4 but I did it without any blood shed. For me that's a victory. The bar did just what I wanted, took out that little bit of roll I was getting on a particular wide corner I take every day to and from work. I need to get it aligned and hopefully that will be done tomorrow night. The car now as the Eibach Pro Springs and Steeda front and rear sway bar. I may add adjustable end links up front but I haven't really checked to see if its necessary. Anyway, thanks for the nice deal on the sway bar, it was worth it for me.

 

You have to drop the subframe (pain).

The bar stiffens up the front and from most reports causes the front to 'skid' i.e., understeer quite badly.

A few who had one installed actually removed it because the effects were so detrimental.

 

You have to drop the subframe (pain).

The bar stiffens up the front and from most reports causes the front to 'skid' i.e., understeer quite badly.

A few who had one installed actually removed it because the effects were so detrimental.

Good to know. The car handles great with the springs and rear sway bar. Its a daily i probally dont need to install the front sway bar. Might be seeing my front swaybar on the focusst.org marketplace.