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I have lots of track data on cooling/oil performance with the shrouds. I have to go back and dig through to get it. @Kevin has more information on it since he and Alex did the data logging this time.

There are going to be other big product launches in the very near future. The shrouds were on a temporary hold but will be next on the list as well as other supporting modifications :)
Are we getting close on these shrouds?
 

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Just curious if this is still a project being looked at, wanting to know if I should go at it myself or not.
 

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I asked if the project was still in process.... I know he is doing a lot of work on other projects. VTs last post in this thread is half a month old. I was just looking for clarification.
well, seeing as how i was a little bit rude with my last post, my apologies, I will answer, by repeating what ST3 4 Me said, by saying yes, i'd assume so. VT is just busy with other products, and will visit this as soon as the time comes,... Just gotta have some patience :nerd:
 

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I asked if the project was still in process.... I know he is doing a lot of work on other projects. VTs last post in this thread is half a month old. I was just looking for clarification.
well, seeing as how i was a little bit rude with my last post, my apologies, I will answer, by repeating what ST3 4 Me said, by saying yes, i'd assume so. VT is just busy with other products, and will visit this as soon as the time comes,... Just gotta have some patience :nerd:
Looking forward to seeing a design.
For now Dan has other higher priority product development projects that he has going. He is trying to grow his business so that he can sustain lower volume items like these deflectors. Don't worry guys he hasn't forgotten them he just can't pass up higher demand product lines ATM.
 

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Here is how the metal version turned out, at least the top portion. I still need to make something for the FMIC. I used 0.025" Aluminum (only option in the size I needed at Lowes), but if I was doing it again, I would use something a little thicker. Everything is bolted together with stainless hardware and the only permanent modifications to the car itself are 2 holes on each side in the composite/plastic structure.

I would assume the biggest challenge for making a "universal" 3D printed kit will be allowing it to be easily modified to accommodate as many of the different oil cooler and FMIC options as possible. Also, if you shave the grill or have a Beeks there is some additional customization needed.

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I really like your design here, but at the same time I wonder if the "bull-nose" profile on your earlier drawing might be less disruptive to linear air flow as it would let you keep those ramp angles shallower (keeping them at that <7 degree target)
 

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I really like your design here, but at the same time I wonder if the "bull-nose" profile on your earlier drawing might be less disruptive to linear air flow as it would let you keep those ramp angles shallower (keeping them at that <7 degree target)
It might be a little better, but also a little harder to make than what I have now. My first track days are April 16-17 at Gingerman which has 2 back-back long straights that will really test the cooling system and allow me to get some data as to how effective this is.
 
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It might be a little better, but also a little harder to make than what I have now. My first track days are April 16-17 at Gingerman which has 2 back-back long straights that will really test the cooling system and allow me to get some data as to how effective this is.
Yeah, my first track days should be about that same time, either Blackhawk or Road America, maybe both. I see that your car is set up almost identically to mine. I have the Depo 3.5 and Mishi cooler here waiting to install. I've been holding off, though, waiting to see if these VT shrouds would be available. I just wanted to pull the bumper off once and get it all done. Pretty soon I'll probably just go for it; pull the bumper, shave the grille, and build ducting similar to what you did.
 

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Yeah, my first track days should be about that same time, either Blackhawk or Road America, maybe both. I see that your car is set up almost identically to mine. I have the Depo 3.5 and Mishi cooler here waiting to install. I've been holding off, though, waiting to see if these VT shrouds would be available. I just wanted to pull the bumper off once and get it all done. Pretty soon I'll probably just go for it; pull the bumper, shave the grille, and build ducting similar to what you did.
Ya after you pull the bumper a time or two it can be done very quickly. I left the bottom cover off while I was working on the shrouds since it's one of the more annoying things to pull and put back on with all the push pin things. Also you can get the screws in the wheel well out just by turning the wheels to one side or the other. The mishimoto video is a great walk-thru of removing and re-installing everything.
 

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It might be a little better, but also a little harder to make than what I have now. My first track days are April 16-17 at Gingerman which has 2 back-back long straights that will really test the cooling system and allow me to get some data as to how effective this is.
Here is what I ended up with. Reduced the frontal area of the crash bar considerably using 2.5 " tubing. Also added a couple of top corner pieces after this picture was taken to seal off and allow the stock engine air intake to see some extra airflow. Sorry, Velossa Tech, just couldn't wait any longer.

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Here is what I ended up with. Reduced the frontal area of the crash bar considerably using 2.5 " tubing. Also added a couple of top corner pieces after this picture was taken to seal off and allow the stock engine air intake to see some extra airflow. Sorry, Velossa Tech, just couldn't wait any longer. <img src="http://www.focusst.org/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=127833"/>
Wow! Looks amazing. Haven't gotten around to doing mine. Bravo!
 

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I am definitely in. Cooling on the hot humid days here are always an issue!


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Here is what I ended up with. Reduced the frontal area of the crash bar considerably using 2.5 " tubing. Also added a couple of top corner pieces after this picture was taken to seal off and allow the stock engine air intake to see some extra airflow. Sorry, Velossa Tech, just couldn't wait any longer.

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That looks great. I got to test out my setup last weekend and it worked pretty well. Coolant temps quickly stabilized at about 225°F after a lap or two and oil temps were around 240°F on my actual gauge (the stock gauge, based on coolant temp and engine speed/load was showing 3/4=255°F). Also, both the coolant and oil temps quickly came back to a normal level during the cool down lap. The Depo FMIC really impressed me as well, it held charge temps to around 90-95°F on a 80 degree day. The stock intercooler was up over 140°F at the same track and ambient temps last year. I had to have the front undertray off as well since I kept blowing off one of the charge pipes, so it should work even better once I have that on. I need to order some correct size Tbands since the one Depo sent are one size too small and I had to use the stock worm gear ones.

 

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That looks great. I got to test out my setup last weekend and it worked pretty well. Coolant temps quickly stabilized at about 225°F after a lap or two and oil temps were around 240°F on my actual gauge (the stock gauge, based on coolant temp and engine speed/load was showing 3/4=255°F). Also, both the coolant and oil temps quickly came back to a normal level during the cool down lap. The Depo FMIC really impressed me as well, it held charge temps to around 90-95°F on a 80 degree day. The stock intercooler was up over 140°F at the same track and ambient temps last year. I had to have the front undertray off as well since I kept blowing off one of the charge pipes, so it should work even better once I have that on. I need to order some correct size Tbands since the one Depo sent are one size too small and I had to use the stock worm gear ones.

Thanks for the feedback. I'm encouraged to hear how well the DEPO unit worked, and also to know that when my oil temp gauge showed a little past 3/4 one time last year that it wasn't REALLY up to 265 or so. Thanks for sharing; I'm not a datalogger (at least, not yet).
I'll get to try mine out at Road America on the 30th. That will be my first run with the DEPO and the Mishimoto on the car. By the way, I solved my charge pipe blowoff problem by going to the Mountune hoses with T-bolt clamps. Expensive, but trouble-free so far. Hoping they grip the DEPO inlet/outlet as well as they did on the stock FMIC
 

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My problem with the DEPO and other FMIC's based on the same core is the weight they add to the nose of the ST.

Everyone talks about charge vs ambient as if that is the holy grail, but don't talk about the added weight.
 

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My problem with the DEPO and other FMIC's based on the same core is the weight they add to the nose of the ST.

Everyone talks about charge vs ambient as if that is the holy grail, but don't talk about the added weight.
Unless your tracking your car in a competition I don't think the weight will affect you negatively. Also having the extra weight upfront does help with cornering. Once you press on the brakes your car naturally shifts its weight forward helping your front wheels grip better and helping turn in.

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