[Randizzle]

Ok soooo let's say I wanted to Guinea pig a pulsar turbo. Anyone have experience with them? I've heard nothing but great things about them.

Being that it would just be a turbo and not the whole kit, these are the things I've gathered that I'd need? But I also saw the atp kits come with oil and coolant lines?

I'd be going most likely with the 2867R not sure which AR to go with, as there are a few more options than just selecting one of the atp kits built specifically for our cars. I know I need dual Vband but would I want .64ar or .82? And then last option is actuator... Is that the wastegate option?

If this is the waste gate, I could just choose no actuator and do the 3p kit that I want to do right?

 

[Randizzle]

Also, something I like that the atp kit doesn't offer is that sweet sounding t51r mod. 😍

 

[TurboGT]

The Ebay Special

So I haven't started one of these threads, but after a year of ownership here is the red dragon.... All cleaned up First two mods were a green filter and boomba TB spacer and Boomba BOV and tq solutions RMM, and symposer delete (not pictured) one step colder and 93 & 30 tune shaved...

www.focusst.org

Thats the guy you want to talk to about piecing together a DIY cheap turbo setup.

 

[jwuonog]

Look for the official ATP install document. It has the exact specs of the oil and coolant lines.

I look forward to seeing the completed project.

 

[junits15]

Did you find a source for the ATP elbow?

I would recommend the updated elbow designed and built by the community:

Custom turbo elbow for your big turbo ST; why you need...

Price on these IWG units is $350 plus shipping Price on the version 1.0 and 2.0 EWG units is $450 plus shipping Price on the version 2.0 dump tube is 190 plus shipping PM @michael_ST to purchase one! Here's the EWG versions 2.0 EWG 2.0 dump tube EWG 1.0 And the IWG version...

www.focusst.org

 

[Randizzle]

Did you find a source for the ATP elbow?

I would recommend the updated elbow designed and built by the community:

Custom turbo elbow for your big turbo ST; why you need...

Price on these IWG units is $350 plus shipping Price on the version 1.0 and 2.0 EWG units is $450 plus shipping Price on the version 2.0 dump tube is 190 plus shipping PM @michael_ST to purchase one! Here's the EWG versions 2.0 EWG 2.0 dump tube EWG 1.0 And the IWG version...

www.focusst.org

Isn't that the one I posted a pic of for 249? I messaged Michael about his. 👌

 

[ddfred]

Isn't that the one I posted a pic of for 249? I messaged Michael about his. 👌

I believe that piece would fit between the ATP adapter and the turbo. It would probably work with the one Michael is building.

 

[jwuonog]

These are the lines you will need. Look at pictures/video of atp turbo install if you are not sure. I would recommend getting an 18" coolant feed line instead of 12". It helped me a bit with clearance.

 

[jwuonog]

Also, I'm pretty sure the turbo comes with fittings already. You just need lines and the connections on the block side. I'd double check with Pulsar. They might have a different recommendation for their oil and coolant fittings.

 

[Randizzle]

Also, I'm pretty sure the turbo comes with fittings already. You just need lines and the connections on the block side. I'd double check with Pulsar. They might have a different recommendation for their oil and coolant fittings.

Looks like it does have fittings.

 

[jwuonog]

Oil feed line:

Oil Feed Line #4 (-4 AN) - SS Braid, 18 inches length : atpturbo.com

This piece will go from your block to the line feeding oil to your turbo:

Fitting, Swivel, #4AN Flare, Male to Female, 90 Degree : atpturbo.com

You will reuse your stock oil drain tube, but need this gasket and these stepdown studs and nuts:

Stepdown studs, nuts, and gasket for oil return : atpturbo.com

These two pieces will go from your block, right next to the downpipe:

Fitting, Metric 14mm to -6AN, Male to Male (For coolant or oil) GT/GTX28 30 35 G Series : atpturbo.com

Fitting, Swivel, #6AN (-6 AN) Flare, Male to Female, 45 Degree : atpturbo.com

Coolant feed line:

Steel braided Hose (90 Degree & Straight Ends), -6 AN, for coolant or oil use, 18 inches long line : atpturbo.com

Coolant return line:

Steel braided Hose, -6 AN Line, for coolant or oil use, 24 inches long, straight/straight ends : atpturbo.com

On the other end of the coolant return line, you will connect this to the rubber coolant line near the driver's side:

Fitting, 3/8" (10mm) pushlock barb to (-6 AN) 6AN Flare, Male to Male, Straight Terminator Adapter : atpturbo.com

You will also need 6" of silicone hose, 3/8" in diameter and a hose clamp. The hose will go around the barb above and then clamp into the plastic housing on the driver side.

Edit: (thanks to TurboGT for pointing this out)
You will also probably need this banjo fitting on the coolant fitting of the turbo that faces the block. The provided fitting might not give enough clearance for a coolant line to fit.

STEEL Banjo Fitting Kit - 14mm With -6 AN Male Flare : atpturbo.com

12mm (1.5 Pitch) to -4 AN Male Flare Fitting : atpturbo.com

 

[Randizzle]

Oil feed line:

Oil Feed Line #4 (-4 AN) - SS Braid, 18 inches length : atpturbo.com

This piece will go from your block to the line feeding oil to your turbo:

Fitting, Swivel, #4AN Flare, Male to Female, 90 Degree : atpturbo.com

You will reuse your stock oil drain tube, but need this gasket and these stepdown studs and nuts:

Stepdown studs, nuts, and gasket for oil return : atpturbo.com

These two pieces will go from your block, right next to the downpipe:

Fitting, Metric 14mm to -6AN, Male to Male (For coolant or oil) GT/GTX28 30 35 G Series : atpturbo.com

Fitting, Swivel, #6AN (-6 AN) Flare, Male to Female, 45 Degree : atpturbo.com

Coolant feed line:

Steel braided Hose (90 Degree & Straight Ends), -6 AN, for coolant or oil use, 18 inches long line : atpturbo.com

Coolant return line:

Steel braided Hose, -6 AN Line, for coolant or oil use, 24 inches long, straight/straight ends : atpturbo.com

On the other end of the coolant return line, you will connect this to the rubber coolant line near the driver's side:

Fitting, 3/8" (10mm) pushlock barb to (-6 AN) 6AN Flare, Male to Male, Straight Terminator Adapter : atpturbo.com

You will also need 6" of silicone hose, 3/8" in diameter and a hose clamp. The hose will go around the barb above and then clamp into the plastic housing on the driver side.

Wow bro. Thanks. This is super helpful. 👌

So, lines are figured out. I'd need the junits adapter and an ewg/dump tube. My depo downpipe will bolt up to either the 2867 or the 3071 (even if it's a knockoff like pulsar?) same with my mishi intake? Anything else I'm gonna need?

 

[jwuonog]

Silicone elbow. 90 degrees. Maybe some extenders and additional silicone straight sections. You'll have to play with it to get your intake to reach.

I think my 90 degree silicone coupler connects to the compressor inlet, then a 3" metal adapter, connected to another straight silicone coupler, then the intake pipe goes into that.

Someone can chime in and confirm...

 

[Randizzle]

Silicone elbow. 90 degrees. Maybe some extenders and additional silicone straight sections. You'll have to play with it to get your intake to reach.

I think my 90 degree silicone coupler connects to the compressor inlet, then a 3" metal adapter, connected to another straight silicone coupler, then the intake pipe goes into that.

Someone can chime in and confirm...

But I can buy a generic 3" silicone elbow for that right? And maybe some 3" straight sections? I should also add, I already have the upgraded cold side with the hks bov

 

[jwuonog]

But I can buy a generic 3" silicone elbow for that right? And maybe some 3" straight sections? I should also add, I already have the upgraded cold side with the hks bov

Yup. You should be good to go. Plus a tune.

Post a lot of pics, I want to see this setup!

 

[Randizzle]

Yup. You should be good to go. Plus a tune.

Post a lot of pics, I want to see this setup!

One last question, I'm trying to spec the 3071 to as similar as the atp kit as possible. Like I said, the 3071 doesn't seem to have an iwg. But the .63 AR option is t3. The only dual vband setups are .82 or.83. Is that too big?

 

[TurboGT]

So the turbine inlet has an option for a 2.5" vband. The ATP Garret turbos use a special Tial vband specifically for the GT28 to GT30 turbos. I think the difference is the centering ridge in the inner diameter of the vband that has a positive engagement to the other side. So a standard ATP or Junits exhaust elbow may not work.

You can spend 30 bucks and find out though once you have the turbo in your hands. The proper flange is Vibrant #1416

Vibrant Performance 1416 Vibrant Performance Turbo Inlet Flanges | Summit Racing

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[TurboGT]

And yes .83 housing on a 3076 will NEVER spool. It's going to be so slow except for 7000 to 8000 RPM. I don't recommend a turbo that large unless you have some wild stroker engine

 

[Duece McCracken]

And yes .83 housing on a 3076 will NEVER spool. It's going to be so slow except for 7000 to 8000 RPM. I don't recommend a turbo that large unless you have some wild stroker engine

Yeah ok. "Words"

 

[STallion18]

Wow bro. Thanks. This is super helpful. 👌

So, lines are figured out. I'd need the junits adapter and an ewg/dump tube. My depo downpipe will bolt up to either the 2867 or the 3071 (even if it's a knockoff like pulsar?) same with my mishi intake? Anything else I'm gonna need?

@sttwoton can give you a better inside on that turbo because it is very popular across the pond. The T51r modification will slow down the spooling because is bleeding out the compressor side to make the whistle.