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I think this is a new product. I was just on AP's website last week-ish, and didn't recall seeing this. Or ever seeing it before, and the only Google result about it is the actual product description on AP's site. No forum posts in the search results or anything. So I believe it's new, someone please correct me if I'm wrong. I wanted to start this thread though to start a discussion about it, and if anyone has experience with it if this indeed isn't a new product. Anyway, they say it increases blade area by 18%, they are somewhat vague about actual power numbers though but they do say it "can give you a over a 50 hp gain", whatever that means. The description says it was tested at over 300 wheel horsepower, but it also says that basic bolt ons and tuning are highly recommended so I assume the cars that were tested with this at over 300whp had Stage 3 hardware and tuning. $995, and they say you need to mail your turbo in for them to install the wheel so I also assume this installation is included in the price. All this vagueness also leads me to believe this is a new product. I know Borg Warner put alot of research and development into the turbo on our cars, and specifically the wheel. Alot of the marketing hype was specifically in regards to the wheel of the turbo, and the rare, hi-tech alloy that was developed by Nasa for use in the space shuttle that they used, and all the abuse it could take. I don't see a little company in Arizona having the resources to match the juggernaut that is Borg Warner. Anyone have any thoughts, opinions, etc? Agency Power Billet Turbo Wheel Upgrade Ford Focus ST 2.0L Ecoboost

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Only benefit I see to this is retaining the stock snail with a little added power for whatever reason you wanted to push 300 with all the supporting mods and "not" upgrade your turbo. Which I feel would be a very small portion of people. You are either like me, lightly modified, stock, with the exception of a tune, plugs, bpv, and filter. I want a low cost, added performance, daily. Or you go full bolt on, fmic, intake, tune, bov, charge pipes, dp, exhaust, mounts, ect. I feel the that person is just going big turbo next, and someone like me won't spend the money.

Only reason I see is if someone was full bolt on and wanted to keep a stock appearance turbo to squeeze by some warranty work without having to swap a turbo, and visually still look stock. But if they're a good tech they will know when someone has been in there either way. Or wanted a sleeper type setup. Back in my DSM days on my 2G Talon (15 years ago) I ran a Big T28 Garret, which was a ported, bigger wheel version of the stock T28. From the outside it looked stock until you pulled the intake tube off you could see the port and larger wheel. But that quickly needed a larger FMIC and sleeper went out the window. That's when it was cool to be a sleeper and average street horsepower was lower then what most cars put out stock these days lol. You can't be a fast "sleeper" anymore lol. If you're considered fast, people will know.
 
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I've had modified turbos using the factory turbo. No matter what wheel you install a small housing is a small housing. No changing that. This will be a waste of money
 

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I've had modified turbos using the factory turbo. No matter what wheel you install a small housing is a small housing. No changing that. This will be a waste of money
agreed. another $1000 and you have your big turbo setup.
 

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Tested over 300 hp? Thats like a 10 whp upgrade from where im at at Stage 3, for about a grand? Rofl. People are better off getting WMI...
 

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You say you're making 290 whp on a stage 3 freektune w/o meth?
I plan on hitting the dyno again now that I sorted some stuff out and threw on some more mods. Last time was not optimal, and i put down 282/364 wheel. But yeah, I should be around the 290whp range now, on pump gas 93.
 

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it would pass SMOG :) invisible upgrade :kiss:
A turbo is not checked for smog. Exhaust, correct number of cats, obd codes, and visual engine bay mods. A turbo has never been an issue for smog short of a massive chrome stand out unit. Anything that mounts in the factory location would not have issue. Besides new CA CARB laws have changed as of late for new cars.
 

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A turbo is not checked for smog. Exhaust, correct number of cats, obd codes, and visual engine bay mods. A turbo has never been an issue for smog short of a massive chrome stand out unit. Anything that mounts in the factory location would not have issue. Besides new CA CARB laws have changed as of late for new cars.
So a big turbo would pass visual?
 

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So a big turbo would pass visual?
Don't chrome it out, and your exhaust is not polished, and has a cat, sure in many cases. All I ever did with my subaru was swap downpipes, and then it was only the 3rd cat I would put back in. (Bosal two piece unit)

Remember too, in CA, cars 6yrs or newer do not go through emissions.
 

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Looks like I am in the minority..... however I think its an interesting upgrade. My current set up is TBE, FMIC, BOV and cold air. The car just made 263/368 at Livernois this week.

Big turbo upgrades also require charge pipes and different BOV's at minimum correct? So 2k turbo plus other add on costs. I like this because if it really got me over 300whp for 1k only...... I see that as a win. I drive my car 100miles a day and wasn't planning on going big turbo however this may be a good middle ground.

Just my humble opinion FWIW.

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Looks like I am in the minority..... however I think its an interesting upgrade. My current set up is TBE, FMIC, BOV and cold air. The car just made 263/368 at Livernois this week.

Big turbo upgrades also require charge pipes and different BOV's at minimum correct? So 2k turbo plus other add on costs. I like this because if it really got me over 300whp for 1k only...... I see that as a win. I drive my car 100miles a day and wasn't planning on going big turbo however this may be a good middle ground.

Just my humble opinion FWIW.

Dave
what down pipe you running? cat/no cat? nice numbers
 

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I agree, depending on seeing this in actual testing I would be interested as well. I think realistically with a tune an ST is going to make between 265-275 with full bolt-ons on pump. if this got me to lets say 310ish I think I would consider it since it would require no other upgrades.
 

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If you use an EFR turbo, it requires neither charge pipes or a BOV. The garret turbos require a BOV but not charge pipes. Charge pipes are a good idea, just not required.

Frankenturbo has something in the works for us based around the F23 platform they use on the GTI. It nets around 350whp on a GTI and is pretty affordable compared to the big named. I'd wait for that of you can

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