[chr0nos]

Long time lurker here

So i have 2 years with my car 2014 ST Tangerine, that has been taken to service at the dealership only, they told me that I need new tires at only 29k kilometers, the front tires are almost gone while the rear tires are somewhat 1/2 life, so I dont understand what is happening. the car alignment is great. EDIT: tire rotation has been done supposedly by the dealership every service (9-10k kilometers)


Could someone point me in the right direction?

Front Left	Front Left
Front Right	Front Right

Rear Left	Rear Left
Rear Right	Rear Right

Thanks.

 

[elyk864]

Definitely looks like a bit of a negative camber issue(possibly toe also). I did get about the same mileage out of my tires also but where I live is much hotter than where you are so you should have gotten better mileage than me. Also I would venture to say they never rotated the tires like they said they did. Unfortunately it's not something you can prove with tire wear alone. Based on what I can see it's something the vehicle did to the tires, the tires aren't "defective" in any way. This is also from working in the tire and wheel industry for 13+ years.

 

[chr0nos]

I got diagnosed the tire alignment and its fine, so its possible that they never rotated the tires or i got my tires swaped from another car, has happen before I was told by a friend.

is there a way to check the serial number from the tires if they match with the VIN?

 

[Blackula]

I have a friend (well, associate) that had this happen to his fiesta, inside of tires wearing faster than outside, and he doesn't know anything about cars. He went through 3 sets of front tires in like 30k miles before the dealer told him both sides of his front suspension were bent (he forgot what parts they told him) and that he must have got in an accident. He says he didn't hit any big bumps but his car clearly has not been in a collision. They wouldn't fix it until he gives them like $4k, so he had it towed to another dealer and they said the first dealer called them and told them not to repair under warranty. At least that's what he told me. Hopefully that's not the case with you but thought I would share.

 

[SHOdown220]

It's a high performance summer tire. You will never good long life out of that tire, that's not what it's made for. Swap to a different type of tire and move on. And no the dot numbers on tires do not correspond with the Vin of the vehicle.

 

[chr0nos]

It's a high performance summer tire. You will never good long life out of that tire, that's not what it's made for. Swap to a different type of tire and move on. And no the dot numbers on tires do not correspond with the Vin of the vehicle.

But look at the image it makes no sense how much wear is on the front right tire when rear tires are at worst 50% life left, also i dont race my car 70% its city driving.

Could someone tag @FordService

Edit: The car is euro-spec, someone told me that in the history of the car (i dont know where can i see that) it must be a serial number from the tires installed from factory.

 

[Duece McCracken]

But look at the image it makes no sense how much wear is on the front right tire when rear tires are at worst 50% life left, also i dont race my car 70% its city driving.

Could someone tag @FordService

Edit: The car is euro-spec, someone told me that in the history of the car (i dont know where can i see that) it must be a serial number from the tires installed from factory.

Actually that wear is standard, due to the factory alignment specs being more aggressive than a commuter car. I just went through this with my Mechanic buddy after my tires got roasted on the inside fronts.

I also drive like every destination is a race, and have been know to do a burnout once in awhile...

 

[skizzo81]

looks like too much toe out.

 

[zoso]

Just looks like the bald tires were left on the front to long. Rears should have been on the drive axles more.

 

[FordService]

But look at the image it makes no sense how much wear is on the front right tire when rear tires are at worst 50% life left, also i dont race my car 70% its city driving.

Could someone tag @FordService

Edit: The car is euro-spec, someone told me that in the history of the car (i dont know where can i see that) it must be a serial number from the tires installed from factory.

Hello chr0nos,

My name is Tricia, and I’m one of the U.S. Ford Customer Service Representatives on this forum. I’ll be happy to guide you in the right direction. Please contact Ford Mexico at 01-800-719-8466 (toll-free) or +52 55 58 997594 (int). You can also send an email, here: [email protected]. They will gladly look into available options to assist.

Have a great day!

Tricia

 

[ddfred]

I don't think they ever rotated your tires.

 

[Burnboy]

Toe is what causes this kind of wear. I'd like to see alignment specs

 

[chr0nos]

I have been calling Ford Mexico but they send me to Goodyear :furious: will post alignment specs later

 

[chr0nos]

This are the alignment specs that the car has.

Edit: anything unusual?

 

[NCST1]

Even though your front toe reading appears to be within spec, if I'm reading right it looks like you are running -3/32 front total toe. This is not ideal for tire wear and could account for the inside edgewear along with possible missed rotations (maybe the dealer failed to perform). Have the front total toe set to the ideal factory spec of +1/16.

 

[iluvmacs]

This seems to be more than an issue of camber or toe. Camber typically wears the tire flat, with one side more and one side less worn. Draw a straight line between the sides. Toe tends to scrub more of the first block of tread, not the sidewall.

Here is my stock Goodyear Eagles from 0-32k miles. I have the same notch off the inside, penetrating into the sidewall, and eventually exposing the cords until I got some delamination.

If this continues I'm going to dismount the tires and mount them in the reverse direction to even out the wear.

My thought, is that since I've never owned a car with this stiff of a chassis and suspension, that the inside front tire (and/or rear) is being dragged while the outside tire does most of the work during hard cornering. It's just a theory, but we would have to look at some non-aggressive drivers' tires and see the difference.

 

[JoshCrane1]

This seems to be more than an issue of camber or toe. Camber typically wears the tire flat, with one side more and one side less worn. Draw a straight line between the sides. Toe tends to scrub more of the first block of tread, not the sidewall.

Here is my stock Goodyear Eagles from 0-32k miles. I have the same notch off the inside, penetrating into the sidewall, and eventually exposing the cords until I got some delamination.

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If this continues I'm going to dismount the tires and mount them in the reverse direction to even out the wear.

My thought, is that since I've never owned a car with this stiff of a chassis and suspension, that the inside front tire (and/or rear) is being dragged while the outside tire does most of the work during hard cornering. It's just a theory, but we would have to look at some non-aggressive drivers' tires and see the difference.

Bruh, toss those, they might kill you.

 

[NaturalCauses]

Long time lurker here

So i have 2 years with my car 2014 ST Tangerine, that has been taken to service at the dealership only, they told me that I need new tires at only 29k kilometers, the front tires are almost gone while the rear tires are somewhat 1/2 life, so I dont understand what is happening. the car alignment is great. EDIT: tire rotation has been done supposedly by the dealership every service (9-10k kilometers)


Could someone point me in the right direction?

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Thanks.

Did you ever find a solution to this or is this just normal for these cars?

I have a 2013 FoST. It's completely stock but I drive fairly aggressively. I've never had a car that went through tires like this does.

My front tires wear exactly like yours, I go through a set after roughly 15,000 miles. I haven't had my alignment checked but it tracks straight and handles great.

 

[elyk864]

Did you ever find a solution to this or is this just normal for these cars?

I have a 2013 FoST. It's completely stock but I drive fairly aggressively. I've never had a car that went through tires like this does.

My front tires wear exactly like yours, I go through a set after roughly 15,000 miles. I haven't had my alignment checked but it tracks straight and handles great.

It's just a camber issue, all "performance" cars have it. The car will track/drive straight with no problems even if the camber is off. If you want to fix the inside wear issue, you need to rotate them religiously or get the alignment done. Though the factory alignment specs call for a bit of negative camber for handling performance. You can make the tires wear perfect if you want, but you'll sacrifice handling to get it.

 

[rambleon84]

I agree, rotating regularly will help. For anyone reading this that has a shop do their rotations, feel free to secretly mark one of your tires and see where it ends up (ex front drivers side should end up on the rear passenger and rear passenger should be moved up to front passenger )

As mentioned, you can still be "within spec" on your allignment and still get excessive wear. Bad toe usually shows its self as just inside edge wear vs camber being across the entire tire at an angle. It's also usually a combination of toe and camber compounding:

get your toe closer to zero, camber will have less of an impact when toe is set better. Keep your tires rotated every 5k miles/8km