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Can't wait Randy! Just picked up mountune Downpipe to get ready to go big turbo this summer!


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Mountune has already said this kit will not have Ford warranty coverage.

Just like the MR300.

I'm hoping for an MR425.

Would be all over that myself. :smile:

 

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This is exciting news, and it will probably be a direct upgrade to the MR300 Kit since that is somewhat of a "Stage 3" setup. A nice option for those who want to buy parts they know will be reliable. It's bolt, flash, and go. A safe and yet punchy tune that would require minimum datalogging if any being a MR tune.

With this kit probably requiring an upgraded down pipe just as the other MR kit I'm positive there won't be anytype of warranty sign off from Ford.

The kit won't be cheap, but we always talking about paying to play, this is the same thing. It may be more expensive than another Turbo setup, but so is an Atmosphere Kit from CP-E. This is just another option available to people who love the Mountune brand and trust their products. Later down the road if you want more power I'm sure you'll be able to get a ProTune from Randy as well.

A few questions though!!

Will this kit be for the 2013-Current ST models? I'm guessing this kit will be accompanied by or require the mTune like the other MR upgrades?

And lastly, the MR300 for the 2015s seems to be delayed as well. I'd guess we will be getting this sometime later in the year before the big turbo even hits the market?

Majority of their parts (exception for the 13-14 intercooler) fit between the 13-15' STs. I would think any big turbo kit they come out with will apply for the whole 13-15' (even 16') model years. Also, their previous kits didn't require the mTune. You could buy the kits without it. It was the mTune itself that required the kits - if that makes sense. Tune required the hardware, not the other way around. I've got essentially everything the MR300 would need now, but only run custom tunes with the hardware. I'm sure when they release the BT you can buy the hardware only or the hardware+mTune.

Only thing I don't have are the charge pipe kits because I'm waiting to see if that will have to be changed anyways with the big turbo once it's released.

 

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That's kinda what I meant, but couldn't explain it properly. The MR calibrations require the mTune which is there for the sole purpose of loading the calibration onto the car. They indeed do sell all the appropriate hardware without the mTune though which is a nice option for those want want custom tunes.

Would be interesting to see if they would require new charge pipes instead of using the existing hardware. I figured the big turbo would be their adapter(if needed), hybrid turbocharger(similar to the ones used for the previous RS kits), and the MR calibration. A completely new design that requires new charge pipes or downpipe might discourage though who have already dropped coin on the previous parts, but anything is possible when there is a demand.

Yeah, very true. I picked up the downpipe this week in anticipation going BT this year. But waiting on mountune just to see what they come up with. They are usually pretty good about overall fitment with the rest of their parts - charge pipes being the one thing in question lol. Can't imagine they would break away from someone having let's say the MR300 kit and them having to replace some of the components just to get the turbo. It makes the competition way to easy for everyone else where you wouldn't have to swap out that gear.

The wait for what's coming is killing me lol.

I'm hoping this was actually a sneak preview of what they were working on.

https://www.facebook.com/7238038876...3803887634561/891444457537169/?type=3&theater

 

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big turbo cars making 325? That's achievable on stock turbo in almost any turbo car.

LOL - not this one.

 

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lol....dp and device is $1500 alone...

Cp-e kit with a GTX2867 is $4,800....without tuning.... i can't see this being less than that.

How are you figuring that? Little over $2k for the 2867 and CPE with BOV is like $500. It's maybe $3k??? Including tune.






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For starters that turbine housing is going to add ~$500, the solid silicone intake is going to cost ~$300, the lines have all been upgraded (for the better) so you're looking at adding 1k to the price of the atp kit right there. It's going to require a new downpipe which'll run minimum $400. The gtx2867 super core retails for $1260 without the iwg. Add all that up plus a Mountune price tag, not undeserved btw, and it comes out to a pricey kit.

New downpipe as in not an aftermarket one already out there or non stock downpipe? Just to be clear


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I think he's talking about the complete cpe turbo kit, not the ATP kit + cpe Exhale:
Ford Focus ST Atmosphere? Turbo Kit - cp-e?

We don't even know for sure what's in the kit, so why are we (collective we) arguing about price already??? For ****'s sake just let them release it first! I, for one, am excited to see another option on the market.

I'm not arguing about the price of the Mountune just asking about his numbers specifically I was quoting.

I look forward to it for one and am just surprised at people calling out price on something that's not even out yet. Haha


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Now I feel retarded, that's clearly an efr turbine housing.

uggg

 

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hey guys, would be nice if this stayed somewhat on topic.

lots of speculation. I think people are going to be quite pleased in a few days.

stoked.

 

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I see you guys also now how a brake kit which includes branded calipers now, nice!


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so according to that instagram post today is the day

yeah.

It does look like it will be EFR which is somewhat disappointment but still waiting for official release.

 

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lol not sure how u can see that as a disappointment. The efr is a much better turbo then the garretts.

Sorry let me clarify, I do view the EFR as the better turbo, it's just a disappointment in that if you are currently stage 3 with a lot of the parts already, the mountune downpipe for example - won't work for this setup. That's the only disappointment. I have one sitting on my living room floor will probably return if things look good with their EFR kit. Not yet released I know but I mean it looks that way right now. That's all I mean by it - you kind of cant' buy all mountune parts and later on go big turbo without ditching a part or 2. Typically they have a solid plug and play upgrade path is all.

hope that makes sense. not disappointed in the turbo choice so much as the challenge for upgrade path.

 

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I think this is it?

mountune Focus ST MRX Turbocharger Upgrade

 

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I'm sold.

 

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That's exactly what it looks like lol. Literally trying to see if I can swing it right now.

 

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It is.

Yeah seriously great work. Workin' on the purchase lol.

 

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Ordered.

 

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Guys,

I haven't been following the big turbo threads in general, but it looks like it's getting close to time I learn a few things.

Are BT guys running with the stock clutch? Looking at the advertised numbers, a Spec Stage 2 would be enough?

How about the transmission internals? Does an LSD add significant strain to the tranny? Should any other interior tranny parts be upgraded?

Without a full build, can you just swap rods/Pistons to stave off ringland failures?

I AutoX and track my car. I would hate to bolt on a BT and then watch the motor grenade at Sebring because I didn't do enough.

Thanks in advance.

The answer on the clutch is I believe it's fine up to around 400hp. Stratified has been pushing the limits and going beyond that number they are finding a need for a clutch just now. They've been doing BT on stock clutch for awhile.

Not sure on the LSD, I wouldn't say it's required but it will help with putting the power down.

As far as piston/rods, I see a lot of people aren't doing it until the motor grenades the first time. Granted you roll the dice on what all breaks then. But stock components are supposed to be good for a hefty amount of power. Most people opt for Aux fuel and/or WMI to help keep temps on check while getting the most out of the engine. I plan to go Aux fueling and that should mitigate the need for Pistons/rods.

That's been my take away and hopefully most of that is accurate.


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So to clarify, I need the following to make this kit work:

1) EFR Downpipe (which they offer)
2) Front Mount (obviously, but listing it to make sure I'm accounting for everything)
3) AccessPort

Contrary to what I'm reading in some posts, the following aren't needed:
1) Charge Pipes
2) Intake (looks like it mounts to either the stock intake or the Mountune one)

Thanks!

Looks right.

And for many they already have Accessport and Front Mount - so really just a downpipe. Also - going with anything other than the GT/GTX Garret turbos would have required a change in downpipe and intake - so this isn't unique to Mountune. Any EFR turbo kit out there requires a change in intake/downpipe - with the exception of the Mountune one looking like it'll work just fine with a stock intake. So really it's a + on the mountune.