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Dry is better than wet on a turbo engine IMHO.

Nitrous doesn't change the air-fuel that much, especially a small shot.

35 hp shot was fine. Damage came with a 50 shot which is 100hp on a turbo car and all in at 3000 rpm plus the engine was back firing.

Progressive control is where its at.

I could use it now, I may at some point it won't really hit until the top of 2nd anyway.

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35hp shot without a controller is fine. The problem is how do fire the system without one? Kits come with a switch but I don't like mounting things around the pedal. There is no cam on the stock throttle body and since progressive control is superior to any other form of nitrous control I spent the extra money.

You can use a button but it looks obvious IMHO. Though Torrie did use the Nitrous in a Bag kit which does come with a coiled button and the solenoid are powered by cig lighter adapter.

The stock turbo is really too small especially on the exhaust side to take advantage of much over 35 hp shot. You need to crank the boost down to use more which actually makes a ton of sense. Going from 21 to say 23 psi is maybe 10-15 hp as the stock turbo is really out of breathe on the stock tune, much less a tuned car. But turning it down to 18 psi and running a 50 hp shot it will likely make 100 hp.

I went dry because you really don't need wet until you can take advantage of it. Plus I have water-methanol injection they do work well together.
 

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I did this. It works fine. At some point I want to test inlet temp reduction which is one of the benefits. I would not recommend more than a 35 hp shot, because the exhaust housing is too small to support more.

Back pressure is the issue and only fixed with a larger turbo.
 
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So after reading all of this, I see a dry 35 shot is “safe”. I’m looking to get a kit asap. I have e30 flash tune from stratified, FBO. Am I good so far? If so where would I mount the nozzle? Get an aftermarket TB spacer?
 

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So after reading all of this, I see a dry 35 shot is “safe”. I’m looking to get a kit asap. I have e30 flash tune from stratified, FBO. Am I good so far? If so where would I mount the nozzle? Get an aftermarket TB spacer?
I put the nozzle in the intake tube after the air box. I would have rather used a angular discharge nozzle and put it into the end of the air filter, not that it matter much in terms of performance it's less obvious not that anybody notices anyway.

With a E30 tune you are fine, it makes no different to the air-fuel ratio with a small shot like that.

You are good to go, no need to reduce timing you are running a high octane fuel.

One more thing I would highly recommend you get one of the many progressive controllers on the market.

Max power is likely 25 hp shot anything higher would require you turn the boost down, by how much I don't know.
 
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Can I thread dig here?

I'm getting a built engine as a birthday gift to myself along with a BT upgrade. Originally was going to go with Mountune MRX kit but given how easy/simple/economic a nitrous setup is, I am thinking I could get a GTX3071 and a nitrous kit and see better power and better spooling.

Would it make sense to go this route? Happy to get a progressive controller or really whatever it is that makes sense.
 

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Would it make sense to also go aux fuel or just wmi or both?
 

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Can I thread dig here?

I'm getting a built engine as a birthday gift to myself along with a BT upgrade. Originally was going to go with Mountune MRX kit but given how easy/simple/economic a nitrous setup is, I am thinking I could get a GTX3071 and a nitrous kit and see better power and better spooling.

Would it make sense to go this route? Happy to get a progressive controller or really whatever it is that makes sense.
If you’re gonna go through the effort to build a motor I would skip any ATP kit and go BNR, MRX, full race, or a CPE atmosphere based kit. Performance will be better especially if you’re gonna be pushing really high numbers.

BNR3076 is on its way
 

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Full Race no longer makes anything for the ST. :(

The CPE Atmosphere kit ... I can't figure out what else I need to use it. I'm guessing "just" the turbo as well?

I've heard some things about the GTX kits that has me thinking to stay away. Not sure if that applies for the G25-660, which I was also looking at.
 

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Full Race no longer makes anything for the ST. :(

The CPE Atmosphere kit ... I can't figure out what else I need to use it. I'm guessing "just" the turbo as well?

I've heard some things about the GTX kits that has me thinking to stay away. Not sure if that applies for the G25-660, which I was also looking at.
The exhaust elbow is the only issue with the ATP garrett kits. Recently there's been a solution for that, ive got a thread on it.
 

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Fortunately, I have been reading that thread but been afraid to ask questions on there for risk of hijacking ... I'm going to migrate over there then. Thank ya.
 

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Fortunately, I have been reading that thread but been afraid to ask questions on there for risk of hijacking ... I'm going to migrate over there then. Thank ya.
Make sure you read the sprinkled in details between page 30 and 40 of the thread i linked to. Theres more in-depth discussion of the elbows shortcomings there
 

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Full Race no longer makes anything for the ST. :(

The CPE Atmosphere kit ... I can't figure out what else I need to use it. I'm guessing "just" the turbo as well?

I've heard some things about the GTX kits that has me thinking to stay away. Not sure if that applies for the G25-660, which I was also looking at.
holy **** they dont! all the turbo kits are 404'd!

nooooooo we're loosing support
 

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Yeah. I sent them an email to request info on their kits and instead of answering any of my n00b questions they said "Oops. We stopped making those a while ago and have removed them from our website. Thanks for reminding us."

Now to figure out where to buy a BT kit from considering Mountune is sold out and Full Race doesn't make them. BNR?
 

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Yeah. I sent them an email to request info on their kits and instead of answering any of my n00b questions they said "Oops. We stopped making those a while ago and have removed them from our website. Thanks for reminding us."

Now to figure out where to buy a BT kit from considering Mountune is sold out and Full Race doesn't make them. BNR?
BNR is an excellent option
 

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Unfortunately, in the near future, if you want to buy aftermarket parts for the ST the only suppliers will be in Australia and Europe. Thanks EPA.
 

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What's the EPA have to do with it?
 

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Anyway, to get this back on topic:

Would running nitrous on the low side as a way to defeat turbo lag be a viable option? I'm still thinking of using a 35 kit along with an Aquamist wmi and SP's aux fuel for good measure.

From what I've read here and from the few folks that seem to have it, this is the case. Though, it looks like the gents that had it might no longer be here.
 

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Anyway, to get this back on topic:

Would running nitrous on the low side as a way to defeat turbo lag be a viable option? I'm still thinking of using a 35 kit along with an Aquamist wmi and SP's aux fuel for good measure.

From what I've read here and from the few folks that seem to have it, this is the case. Though, it looks like the gents that had it might no longer be here.
@C.Sickone runs nitrous and has posted more recently about it.


Also i cant remember if @Tunapish runs giggle gas or not.
 

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Yeah. I sent them an email to request info on their kits and instead of answering any of my n00b questions they said "Oops. We stopped making those a while ago and have removed them from our website. Thanks for reminding us."

Now to figure out where to buy a BT kit from considering Mountune is sold out and Full Race doesn't make them. BNR?
There's an full race 7163 kit on ebay atm, been there for over a month and guys asking 1199 obo, I know he'll take 949.
 
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