[BBrock293]

I just added a Kicker 12 that's getting 500W, and as I suspected, the highs (that were already terrible) are being drowned out. I am trying to decide between the Infinity Primus and Kappas. I wanted to get some input from everyone on whether I should spend the extra bucks and get the Kappas, or go with the Primus. Here are my thoughts so far:

Kappas: Expensive, from what I gathered on here they are much easier to install, keeping the car a while so maybe invest now?

Primus: About a 1/3 the cost of the Kappas, still a great upgrade over factory

 

[DDT1972]

If you are keeping her for a while, do it up the first time, and spend the bucks. Just some advice from experience, the factory amp pushing them will not be enough to balance with that new sub, you will need more power and another LOC. Tried it myself, hated it. Also, did you delete the center channel in the dash? It cleans up the front stage separation.


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[BBrock293]

Not looking to run another amp anytime soon, so I guess the primus might be my best bet for the time being.

 

[BBrock293]

Well, I picked up the Primus and got them installed over the weekend. Not sure what the issue is, but like the stock speakers, I can turn them all the way up and it still isn't loud. I'm not really wowed by these at all. Guessing I need to amp them maybe? Any 4 channel amp suggestions and or specs to be on the lookout for?

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[mitch808]

Any quality amp that does at least 75W RMS will be sufficient. Or even higher if budget allows... Swap your sub amp for a 5ch amp.

 

[DDT1972]

Well, I picked up the Primus and got them installed over the weekend. Not sure what the issue is, but like the stock speakers, I can turn them all the way up and it still isn't loud. I'm not really wowed by these at all. Guessing I need to amp them maybe? Any 4 channel amp suggestions and or specs to be on the lookout for?

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Kinda figured that...lol.


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[BBrock293]

Kinda figured that...lol.


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Well, I was hoping with the switch to 3ohm and the speakers being better quality, I could live with it. I probably could, but I don't want to guess.

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[DDT1972]

Here is a good 5-CH to push anything loud enough to make you deaf. My current setup.

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[DDT1972]

Had a Kenwood 5-CH in there before, also good enough for most 8" or 10" sub and all mid/high choices.


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[mitch808]

Well, I was hoping with the switch to 3ohm and the speakers being better quality, I could live with it. I probably could, but I don't want to guess.

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The whole 3ohm rating is more a fools errand with no real world gains. Resistance is not fixed and changes with frequency as well as temperature. The promised gain of more power disappears in The moment a signal appears. This is why there are zobel networks...

 

[BBrock293]

This is going to be a stupid question, but if I was to put in a small Alpine amp, am I adding that RMS wattage to the wattage the stock amp puts out or am I bypassing the stock amp completely? I've been looking at an Alpine 4 channel that puts out 45 watts x 4 at 4 ohms.

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[DDT1972]

This is going to be a stupid question, but if I was to put in a small Alpine amp, am I adding that RMS wattage to the wattage the stock amp puts out or am I bypassing the stock amp completely? I've been looking at an Alpine 4 channel that puts out 45 watts x 4 at 4 ohms.

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The Alpine amp would NOT add to the Sony wattage, you would be replacing that wattage.


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[1LoudST]

correct, any aftermarket amp's wattage will NOT add to the OEM amps wattage.


is the "small Alpine amp" you're talking about the power pack?


also a good amp to consider that can also replace your sub amp, is the Pioneer GM-D9605
https://www.sonicelectronix.com/item_100369_Pioneer-GM-D9605.html
simple 5ch with plenty of power