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So my dad was talking to a local dealer after a debate him and I had on the brakes between a RS vs ST. They have a bone stock magnetic ST that's had red brake calipers. They look like stock calipers painted red to me. Sales guy (insert grain of salt here) was taunting them as high performance brakes. Dad didn't remember any mark up or add on's on the window sticker. What say ye? Stock painted?
 

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So premium wheel cars come already painted...or the dealer did this? I guess that's a nice touch then.
 

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As others have said... stock with paint (factory option included with premium wheels since 2014 ST). Rear brakes are same between RS and ST from what I have read. Fronts are different, but the RS front kit is available for the ST as an FRPP part https://performanceparts.ford.com/part/M-2300-W (so are the rears, but again same thing only painted blue).
 

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So my dad was talking to a local dealer after a debate him and I had on the brakes between a RS vs ST. They have a bone stock magnetic ST that's had red brake calipers. They look like stock calipers painted red to me. Sales guy (insert grain of salt here) was taunting them as high performance brakes. Dad didn't remember any mark up or add on's on the window sticker. What say ye? Stock painted?
Sales guy is right, they are high performance brakes in context to a standard Focus. The red paint is just an option
 

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Doesn't the RS comes with 302mm rear rotors and the ST come with 270mm ones? Oh I think they're vented too, so the RS rear calipers are different also and open wider. I ran across all that not long ago researching the FrankenBrake mod on here.....

Oh and I agree..... just regular ST stock calipers just painted red in your example. I'm going to do mine Oxford White when I do the FrankenBrake mod to the rears. They may get dirty quick, but I'd rather have dirty white, than silver calipers on my ST1.
 

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Get the ESSEX AP Racing brake package. Problem solved. No fancy colours though but if you track it they all turn a lovely shade of brown any ways.
 

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Get the ESSEX AP Racing brake package. Problem solved. No fancy colours though but if you track it they all turn a lovely shade of brown any ways.
I'm in Minnesota and I'm considering getting the AP package. I am concerned about daily driving brakes with no dust boots in our sloppy winters. Where are you from and do you have any comments on this? thx
 

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I believe the RS has different pads in the rear also. The stock brakes are decent for spirited driving. Not really a track ready brake setup.
Yeah, I was at track event at Blackhawk Farms and a young guy comes over to say that he loves his new ST as he was passing everyone in the novice group. A couple minutes later he comes back to ask whether his brake pads should crumbling into dust on his rims. I told him no, he was done for the day. If you are at all fast on the track, do not run on the stock pads. If you are getting started something like Hawk HP+ should do, but when you get really fast you have to move up to something like Hawk DT-60s. The stock single piston calipers work better than you might expect, but changing pads on them is a pain in the butt. The front retaining clips are hard to remove and the rear-endlinks have to be disconnected to get to the rear caliper slide pins. To remove the front caliper retainer clips get a large channel lock and there is another post on this site that recommends cutting off a 7mm allen to use on the rear caliper slide pins.
 

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Yeah, I was at track event at Blackhawk Farms and a young guy comes over to say that he loves his new ST as he was passing everyone in the novice group. A couple minutes later he comes back to ask whether his brake pads should crumbling into dust on his rims. I told him no, he was done for the day. If you are at all fast on the track, do not run on the stock pads. If you are getting started something like Hawk HP+ should do, but when you get really fast you have to move up to something like Hawk DT-60s. The stock single piston calipers work better than you might expect, but changing pads on them is a pain in the butt. The front retaining clips are hard to remove and the rear-endlinks have to be disconnected to get to the rear caliper slide pins. To remove the front caliper retainer clips get a large channel lock and there is another post on this site that recommends cutting off a 7mm allen to use on the rear caliper slide pins.
I have taken the rear brakes off a couple times and never had to remove the rear endlink to do so.
 

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The red calipers come with those optional wheels, about $550 extra if I remember correctly.
The calipers are actually powder coated, not painted.
 

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Yeah, I was at track event at Blackhawk Farms and a young guy comes over to say that he loves his new ST as he was passing everyone in the novice group. A couple minutes later he comes back to ask whether his brake pads should crumbling into dust on his rims. I told him no, he was done for the day. If you are at all fast on the track, do not run on the stock pads. If you are getting started something like Hawk HP+ should do, but when you get really fast you have to move up to something like Hawk DT-60s. The stock single piston calipers work better than you might expect, but changing pads on them is a pain in the butt. The front retaining clips are hard to remove and the rear-endlinks have to be disconnected to get to the rear caliper slide pins. To remove the front caliper retainer clips get a large channel lock and there is another post on this site that recommends cutting off a 7mm allen to use on the rear caliper slide pins.
To remove the front clips I use a flat head screw driver. Just lift up on one side until that side's clips are free and it will fall off. You don't need tools to put it back on. I would recommend using gloves though. For the rear I have used an allen socket with no issues.
 
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