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So the ST is my daily car and it's pretty fun at stage 3 but I've had the desire to switch to a big turbo pretty soon to bring a little more out of it. I know Gen 2 turbos haven't been out for very long yet but I know a few people have bought them. I was hoping to hear how things were going with them so far when compared to the Gen 1 turbos? I'm specifically looking at the GTX2867r. And lastly, I see they're on sale currently, how much longer is the sale going on? Thanks!
 

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I have no experience with the generation one turbo but my GEN two is excellent I’m on the third iteration of my tune and I must say that it rups. 24.5 psi peak and 22.5 at redline. So far less wheelspin because of the spool. It’s not cheap once everything is added up though...
 

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what he said^^

Ive been daily driving mine all summer, over 6k with it! Its a ton of fun. But very expensive to have everything running correctly. Seems like there is always one more piece to buy
 
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I have no experience with the generation one turbo but my GEN two is excellent I’m on the third iteration of my tune and I must say that it rups. 24.5 psi peak and 22.5 at redline. So far less wheelspin because of the spool. It’s not cheap once everything is added up though...
what he said^^

Ive been daily driving mine all summer, over 6k with it! Its a ton of fun. But very expensive to have everything running correctly. Seems like there is always one more piece to buy

Thanks for the quick replies fellas, do either of you have a dyno chart to share by chance? Even if just vdyno? Curious to compare it to the existing Gen 1 turbo results floating around already. And are either of you running meth injection or aux fuel? I have meth injection currently but probably will only use it for cleaning/cooling like I am now but just curious if you guys are using either. Thanks!
 

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what he said^^

Ive been daily driving mine all summer, over 6k with it! Its a ton of fun. But very expensive to have everything running correctly. Seems like there is always one more piece to buy
Actually just noticed your build thread and skimmed through it. I think you're on a Gen 1 turbo correct?
 

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Actually just noticed your build thread and skimmed through it. I think you're on a Gen 1 turbo correct?
I bought it used so I am not 100% which gen it is. I bought it so quickly and did not do much research on how to tell the difference. I do not have any physical numbers for you to prove the power its putting down. But from my reading I should be making 330-350, and I can say from cars that I have ran against I am for sure there. I do have meth Injection, currently waiting to get my base map for it. Hoping to see 380-400 with that.
 

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I bought it used so I am not 100% which gen it is. I bought it so quickly and did not do much research on how to tell the difference. I do not have any physical numbers for you to prove the power its putting down. But from my reading I should be making 330-350, and I can say from cars that I have ran against I am for sure there. I do have meth Injection, currently waiting to get my base map for it. Hoping to see 380-400 with that.
If used then certainly the gen 1. Gen 2 was released the last week in June. Like I said I’m only on my third iteration of the etune from freektune so I’m not sure it’s making all the power it can on 93. In theory it’ll spool a bit quicker than a gen 1 because of a lightened billet compressor wheel and will have more top end because of updates to the compressor housing and inlet. I’m set up for wmi it’s just not turned on. I’m gonna have freektune make me a switchable map for wmi after we’re done tuning without. I think it flows a little better but won’t make any more power per se. that being said newer is always better-Barney Stinson.
 
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I don't think the Gen ii GTX2867r is going to be anything substantial over the Gen i. From the compressor map and research I did when I was buying the GTX (I ended up with a gen i) the difference would at most be 25hp and slightly quicker spool at high boost levels.

If you google the gen ii GTX2867r and look at the volkswagen forums the results seem to be not much different. I don't think anyone with an ST has tryed both yet. Alex would probably be best to chime in as he has tuned both so will best be able to see the difference.
 

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I have no experience with the generation one turbo but my GEN two is excellent I’m on the third iteration of my tune and I must say that it rups. 24.5 psi peak and 22.5 at redline. So far less wheelspin because of the spool. It’s not cheap once everything is added up though...
Are you running the Gen 2 GTX2867r ? Because I cant see it on the ATP website, at least not in teh Focus ST section
 

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Are you running the Gen 2 GTX2867r ? Because I cant see it on the ATP website, at least not in teh Focus ST section
I do have a gen 2. They changed the adaptor to stainless steel from cast iron on the gen 2. That’s a nice upgrade.
 
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