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Looking to get 1"-2" of lift on the front end (because winter, snow, rally etc.)

I came across these but not keen to buy from Russia:

Front Strut spacers Ford Focus2, C-Max, Focus3, Kuga 30mm | eBay

Anyone else seen something like this available in North America, the EU or the UK?

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Mark

P.S. In case the link is broken, here's a pic:

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Looking to get 1"-2" of lift on the front end (because winter, snow, rally etc.)

I came across these but not keen to buy from Russia:

Front Strut spacers Ford Focus2, C-Max, Focus3, Kuga 30mm | eBay

Anyone else seen something like this available in North America, the EU or the UK?

TIA,
Mark

P.S. In case the link is broken, here's a pic:

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This sounds like it would be more detrimental to performance than something like a bigger set of springs to raise the car or something, but I agree about ordering from Russia. All kinda of tamperment over there as of late in the cyber world. I only know this because I'm an Information Security Specialist and I've seen a lot of it in my field lately.


Edit: And...ya know...the Clinton/Trump issues right now involving them.
 

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This sounds like it would be more detrimental to performance than something like a bigger set of springs to raise the car or something, <snip>
There are no springs that fit stock shocks (or stock-like shocks and coilovers), e.g. Bilstein B8/Koni/H&R which increase ride height. There are no streetable coilovers that raise the ride height either. I'd need to get Bilstein 2500 tubes or similar rally-spec suspension, and for a daily driver that is not the route that IMHO makes sense.

30mm of ride change won't impact handling all that much; neither the scrub radius nor the CG height will change noticeably. A set of 20mm wheel spacers in my experience will provide greater handling changes.

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I can order and test em

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That's $52 and a few weeks' wait - plus some delivery/customs risk. Sure you want to do that?

I can take a Ford top hat to a local machine shop to get aluminum spacers made too for under $100, but once I saw how popular lift kits have become, that our strut footprint is common to so many cars, I had hoped that despite my failed Googling, someone else domestically would have already been making these.

Thanks though if you do order and try them -- though I might suggest getting some proper AN grade mounting bolts instead of the Russian-supplied hardware!

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That's $52 and a few weeks' wait - plus some delivery/customs risk. Sure you want to do that?

I can take a Ford top hat to a local machine shop to get aluminum spacers made too for under $100, but once I saw how popular lift kits have become, that our strut footprint is common to so many cars, I had hoped that despite my failed Googling, someone else domestically would have already been making these.

Thanks though if you do order and try them -- though I might suggest getting some proper AN grade mounting bolts instead of the Russian-supplied hardware!

All the best,
Mark
I have a Machinist we are working with for new items

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Subaru people love their "saggy butt," spacers, or these as cheap lift kits. Made from Delrin or Aluminum, there is nothing fancy or rocket science about them. It's not till you get to 1" or more that things get interesting with axle angles, boot stretching, etc..

I'd say if you have good CC protection, order away. The worst that can happen is that you have to make a claim with your credit card company.

Realistically, putting these in and taking them out for seasonal conditions is not for the faint of heart. You're better off with adjustable height coilovers. Specifically a coilover that can achieve stock height if such a thing exists.
 

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I know you put in the mountune kit but ground control kits can raise the car higher than factory iirc

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Subaru people love their "saggy butt," spacers, or these as cheap lift kits. Made from Delrin or Aluminum, there is nothing fancy or rocket science about them. It's not till you get to 1" or more that things get interesting with axle angles, boot stretching, etc..

I'd say if you have good CC protection, order away. The worst that can happen is that you have to make a claim with your credit card company.

Realistically, putting these in and taking them out for seasonal conditions is not for the faint of heart. You're better off with adjustable height coilovers. Specifically a coilover that can achieve stock height if such a thing exists.
"Stock height" may not work for what he plans to do with the car. I'm in the same situation where stock height will be uncomfortably close for my local rally-cross events. If K-Sport would make a rally suspension setup I'd go with it. But unfortunately majority of ST owners wish to lower their car so there isn't enough demand for rally suspension.
 

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Realistically, putting these in and taking them out for seasonal conditions is not for the faint of heart. You're better off with adjustable height coilovers. Specifically a coilover that can achieve stock height if such a thing exists.
Well, there are no adjustable height coilovers of which I am aware (other than things like the Bilstein 2500s and comparable I mentioned above) which even reach stock height.

Lowering the struts sufficiently to slide in a 30mm spacer sure is harder than doing an oil change, but requires no special tools and in my experience takes about an hour, so I'm not sure why you think this job is not for the faint of heart?

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I know you put in the mountune kit but ground control kits can raise the car higher than factory iirc

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Yes, I'm very happy with the Mountune ClubSport kit, but I've always had good success with Bilstein on previous cars, and the slight extra spring stiffness of the Mountune springs over the stock springs is perfect for me.

In my ClubSport install post I noted that my front ride height stayed the same as the stock springs (and has remained the same after several months), even though the kit is advertised as offering modest lowering. I suspect my stock Ford springs had just sagged after three years of daily driving.

Really all I want is to get my car's nose up about 30mm for the winter (and for when I go work rallies), to about the height of my daughter's 2012 Focus SE.

I can do that via a local machine shop for about $100, so to pay $399 for the GC camber plates I'm sure is good for some but not for me.

Thanks for suggesting that route though!

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"Stock height" may not work for what he plans to do with the car. I'm in the same situation where stock height will be uncomfortably close for my local rally-cross events. If K-Sport would make a rally suspension setup I'd go with it. But unfortunately majority of ST owners wish to lower their car so there isn't enough demand for rally suspension.
Stock-ish height works for me, but for rallycross events I'd look at the Bilstein 2500 tubes; they use standard diameter springs so you can use the Ground Control top hats and get the spring rates/resting height you want no problem.

Undo the front sway bar too for the duration of the event and you'll have plenty of compliance in the front for traction accelerating and braking even without an LSD, and plenty of low-speed oversteer for rotating the car.

Hope that helps,
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Stock-ish height works for me, but for rallycross events I'd look at the Bilstein 2500 tubes; they use standard diameter springs so you can use the Ground Control top hats and get the spring rates/resting height you want no problem.

Undo the front sway bar too for the duration of the event and you'll have plenty of compliance in the front for traction accelerating and braking even without an LSD, and plenty of low-speed oversteer for rotating the car.

Hope that helps,
Mark
I did read about disconnecting the end links, now my only question with that would be; That won't cause any issues? I'm a paranoid person, this thing is my baby, if I break something, I don't want it happening cause I did something really stupid haha

Make it 2 questions.
Where might I find he Bilstein 2500?
 

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I did read about disconnecting the end links, now my only question with that would be; That won't cause any issues? I'm a paranoid person, this thing is my baby, if I break something, I don't want it happening cause I did something really stupid haha

Make it 2 questions.
Where might I find he Bilstein 2500?
As re the front sway bar end links, you'll want to remove them entirely, and use a replacement bolt where the upper mount point is to hold the harmonic weight in place, as that also has a clip to hold the wheel speed sensor harness. Double check that the sway bar won't freely rotate like the rear, but if it does, just cable tie it upright.

As re the 2500, looks like Bilstein has revamped their motorsports product line :-( Here's a link to the current catalog:

http://www.bilsteinus.com/fileadmin...og/BILSTEIN_Motorsports_Catalog_2017_WEB_.pdf

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http://www.bilsteinus.com/fileadmin...atalog/BILSTEIN_Off-Road_Catalog_2017_WEB.pdf

I _think_ you'd be looking at the MDS line.

You could always call Team O'Neil to see what they've done to the RS; Tim did publish a YouTube video on their mods to the front suspension using a Bilstein tube strut. And here's the link:


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Really all I want is to get my car's nose up about 30mm for the winter (and for when I go work rallies), to about the height of my daughter's 2012 Focus SE.
if you wait until you need new winter tires, could you make up the difference there?
 

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if you wait until you need new winter tires, could you make up the difference there?
No, not enough clearance in the wheel well for larger diameter tires; but an interesting suggestion nonetheless!

Recall our turn radius is already limited over that of a standard Focus on account of our larger shoes...

All the best,
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