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Butt pucker! :shocked:
My last car with summer tires was all-wheel drive ('04 VW R32) and it went great. The ST not so much. I'll get used to it, though. :smile:
 

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Butt pucker! :shocked:
My last car with summer tires was all-wheel drive ('04 VW R32) and it went great. The ST not so much. I'll get used to it, though. :smile:
Yeah, below 40 degrees or snow/ice ditch them for the safety of you and anyone else on the road. Not safe at all to use the F1 summers at all lol.
 

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All tires are just about useless under 45°(tire temperature) unless they are a specified snow/winter tire. The rubber becomes hard and looses all flexibility.
 
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Not only are the summer tires useless below 40*f, and even colder weather they will become so stiff that they will crack, and become useless once summer comes around again.
Get some all seasons at least.
 

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yup summer tires are very dangerous below 40. I've seen them blow crack and come apart.
 
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The R32 came with Goodyear Eagle F1s. I was working at the time and they worked pretty good, surprisingly. I never had a problem.
 

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The R32 came with Goodyear Eagle F1s. I was working at the time and they worked pretty good, surprisingly. I never had a problem.
AWD has that effect :)
 
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The R32 came with Goodyear Eagle F1s. I was working at the time and they worked pretty good, surprisingly. I never had a problem.
Eagle F1 AS A/S (all season) or Eagle F1 AS II's (summer)? The all seasons are typical "no-seasons" which do okay on dry and okay in mild weather. The summers break lose at -2psi boost when it's below 35 degrees F
 

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Eagle F1 AS A/S (all season) or Eagle F1 AS II's (summer)? The all seasons are typical "no-seasons" which do okay on dry and okay in mild weather. The summers break lose at -2psi boost when it's below 35 degrees F
That car is long gone, so I don't know which one it was exactly. The tires had a deep V pattern. They were the summer performance version, which isn't available now.
 

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Why would you get rid of the R32!!!
 

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Why would you get rid of the R32!!!
Being a Volkswagen I don't blame him, but I respect the close following VW have with their cars. My first car was a MKIV Jetta. Hated it, but loved the looks.
 

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Feeling your pain. My backup winter vehicle is unexpectedly broken. We haven't gotten winter tires, because I wasn't supposed to have to drive it in any significant snow...and I can't even get it out of the driveway. Yay working from home.
 

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As someone who is exceedingly lazy and wants to wait til I'm absolutely forced to switch to my winter wheels...

The goodyear F1s that come on the ST are OK in the cold. Like, they work. It's certainly not ideal and I know it's bad for the tires but you can get by, even if its 0 degrees outside. Just take it easy and you're fine.

But if the roads are snow covered- you aren't going anywhere.
 

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I'm curious what summer tires you were using with awd that worked in snow. AWD isn't magic, you still need grip.
The magic AWD that also lets you brake and turn better than any other car too.

There's no dedicated summer tire that will work once you get more than a few inches on the road. Pretty sure the R32s came with Dunlop All Seasons as the OEM tire.



Anyone who drives this car on summer tires in actual snow needs to please not. If you can afford an ST with summers, you can get a set of snow tires or all seasons and not be a danger to everyone else on the road.
 

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Anyone who drives this car on summer tires in actual snow needs to please not. If you can afford an ST with summers, you can get a set of snow tires or all seasons and not be a danger to everyone else on the road.
THIS. Please people, just do it properly. Don't put yourself/your property/other people/other people's property at risk. Is there snow? Put on snow tires - nothing else.
 
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Had the same problem with mine when it snowed today, but I dared not risk driving outside of my driveway. Of course my brand new snow tires/wheels for it are stacked up in my garage so I'm gonna try to put them on this weekend. Luckily my old beater (Chrysler sebring) has snow tires on so I bombed around town in that hunk of junk!
 

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Had the same problem with mine when it snowed today, but I dared not risk driving outside of my driveway. Of course my brand new snow tires/wheels for it are stacked up in my garage so I'm gonna try to put them on this weekend. Luckily my old beater (Chrysler sebring) has snow tires on so I bombed around town in that hunk of junk!
Oh hell yeah.

Sebring winter beater. Drop the top on that sumb*tch and hit the winter rally stage! :RockOn:
 
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