[Alex15ST]

So my buddy has a 15 stage 3 focus with no mods done just but he does have a FreakTune and says he is running a higher boost then stock, my car is 100% stock well we just raced tonight finally and honestly there wasn't hardly any difference in our cars? One time I even stated pulling away from him? Later that night he said he read somewhere that some cars came out of the factory's with "factory tunes" has anyone else heard of this? Was it the driver? Or.. do you think his mud flaps made his car less aero dynamic and let me pass him? :joy:

Please help!

 

[Ayada]

So my buddy has a 15 stage 3 focus with no mods done

Well, which is it? Stage 3 or no mods done? "Stage 3" is typically downpipe, intake and an intercooler. Exhaust if you are feeling fancy. A tune would be considered "Stage 1" at most.

Later that night he said he read somewhere that some cars came out of the factory's with "factory tunes" has anyone else heard of this?

Nope, not true at all.

Or.. do you think his mud flaps made his car less aero dynamic and let me pass him? :joy: !

Probably a combination of driver mods needed and a bunch of heat soaked intercoolers all around, pulling back power.

 

[Alex15ST]

So my buddy has a 15 stage 3 focus with no mods done

Well, which is it? Stage 3 or no mods done? "Stage 3" is typically downpipe, intake and an intercooler. Exhaust if you are feeling fancy. A tune would be considered "Stage 1" at most


No I mean like hes got the ST 3, the one with recaros and stuff?

 

[UnfocusedST]

Well, which is it? Stage 3 or no mods done? "Stage 3" is typically downpipe, intake and an intercooler. Exhaust if you are feeling fancy. A tune would be considered "Stage 1" at most


No I mean like hes got the ST 3, the one with recaros and stuff?

Is yours an ST1? If so it's lighter due to no leather and less audio equipment.

Sent from another garage.

 

[Ayada]

No I mean like hes got the ST 3, the one with recaros and stuff?

Oh, then if you have the base ST1, technically his car has a few pounds on yours. If either of you have the sunroof it can go either way. Although, if we are getting down to that level whoever weighs more has a disadvantage as well.. not that it really matters in racing like that anyways.

 

[Alex15ST]

Well, which is it? Stage 3 or no mods done? "Stage 3" is typically downpipe, intake and an intercooler. Exhaust if you are feeling fancy. A tune would be considered "Stage 1" at most


No I mean like hes got the ST 3, the one with recaros and stuff?

Is yours an ST1? If so it's lighter due to no leather and less audio equipment.

Sent from another garage.

Yes. Mines the ST1

 

[Alex15ST]

No I mean like hes got the ST 3, the one with recaros and stuff?

Oh, then if you have the base ST1, technically his car has a few pounds on yours. If either of you have the sunroof it can go either way. Although, if we are getting down to that level whoever weighs more has a disadvantage as well.. not that it really matters in racing like that anyways.

I guess that makes sense, ST3 has that sub in the back. And he has the sunroof and full recaros. While I'm all cloth, no sunroof and no subs. Makes sense. Thanks man! ( I prolly got 20-30 pounds on him. As in I'm fatter lol )

 

[stylo]

DEFINITELY the mudflaps ..

Driving from a dig or from a rolling start ?

 

[Alex15ST]

DEFINITELY the mudflaps ..

Driving from a dig or from a rolling start ?

I knew it must of been the mud flaps .

35L-40L-45W-50W
L = I lost
W = I won

 

[Duece McCracken]

Oh geez. Normally i just shake my head, none the wiser, but this should have been a few google searches. Not a thread. Like most things i see now-a-days. Im getting too old for patience these days.

Please use google and read stickies. Or be very funny or intelligent in your posts. Maybe a meme. Spice things up. Please, please...

 

[CrypticAbyss]

Oh geez. Normally i just shake my head, none the wiser, but this should have been a few google searches. Not a thread. Like most things i see now-a-days. Im getting too old for patience these days.

Please use google and read stickies. Or be very funny or intelligent in your posts. Maybe a meme. Spice things up. Please, please...

Or maybe don't waste your time on the thread if you don't like it.

 

[ghettojay]

lol i hate how people state they have stage 2 stage 3 blabla bla. You mean you have an intake or intake,exhaust tune,intake exhaust tune intercooler.grrrrrrrr lol but anyways if he is tuned then he just sucks at driving and you have driver mod lol

 

[nickbaldwin86]

OP: I have seen and even personally beat stage 3 tuned with my bone stock factory car. A guy in our "club" had a super "factory freak" and he could out run stage 3 cars, mind blowing, it made me rethink the wasting my money on "stage" parts and tunes when stock cars are beating up on cars that have $2000+ in bolt-ons.

most of it comes down to driver! a bad driver can loose in the faster car

lol i hate how people state they have stage 2 stage 3 blabla bla. You mean you have an intake or intake,exhaust tune,intake exhaust tune intercooler.grrrrrrrr lol but anyways if he is tuned then he just sucks at driving and you have driver mod lol

Yes because I want to waste my time explaining every nut and bolt on my car when I could just say stage 3 and you would know what I have.

Tunes are named in "stage" 1 2 3. FSwerks even has a Stage 4 tune... bahaha.

In my opinion the only part that matters is the tune and therefore the stage is determined by the tune and of course the supporting parts, but again I could care less what is bolted to your car, big freaking deal.

 

[ghettojay]

its just annoying lol. they come to my shop and they are pissed off half the time because their "stage 3" car only made 260 on the dyno and then=y were told it would do 280 lol lol lol

 

[nickbaldwin86]

its just annoying lol. they come to my shop and they are pissed off half the time because their "stage 3" car only made 260 on the dyno and then=y were told it would do 280 lol lol lol

that is just because of the ****ty tune... they should be taking it up with the tuner.

You can run stage 3 tune on a completely stock car... I would recommend it but you can and you will not get the results your looking for, at that point you will need to know every nut and bolt.

Sorry what I find annoying is boy racers that have a 4 page list of bolt on slow parts and they stand there and fill my ear with the noise, then get in the car and cant drive it!

 

[Duece McCracken]

Or maybe don't waste your time on the thread if you don't like it.

I normally don't. But this thread just rustled my jimmies.

OP mixes up the car trim packages with the dreaded "stage#" designation. Then asks about the "factory tuned".

Just a poor post overall.

The whole factory tuned thing has been discussed and debunked years ago.

So it was just down to a base model versus a loaded model with mudflaps.

A google search on the weight differences on the ST trims, then a google search on the factory tuned. /endthread

 

[Soden82]

So my buddy has a 15 stage 3 focus with no mods done just but he does have a FreakTune

Freektune*

Had to do it. And in reference to the whole stage discussion, I don't mind it too much because it's a shorthand for the main modifications. Now if someone says full bolt on, technically a big turbo is a bolt on too so that's a little misleading...


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[Focus Dave]

Since you were racing at a track and not on the street, there should be all sorts of data to back up which car ran a faster time and put the whole discussion to bed, right?

 

[620speeder]

Since you were racing at a track and not on the street, there should be all sorts of data to back up which car ran a faster time and put the whole discussion to bed, right?

Don't be such a Nancy

 

[ghettojay]

that is just because of the ****ty tune... they should be taking it up with the tuner.

You can run stage 3 tune on a completely stock car... I would recommend it but you can and you will not get the results your looking for, at that point you will need to know every nut and bolt.

Sorry what I find annoying is boy racers that have a 4 page list of bolt on slow parts and they stand there and fill my ear with the noise, then get in the car and cant drive it!

a ****ing men. i hear it all the time its annoying. or why there stock turbo with 93 is not making over 300hp lol lol lol