Ford Focus ST Forum banner

Dunlop SP Winter Sport 3D or what do you like better?

1 reading
6.5K views 5 replies 5 participants last post by  thaduke2003  
#1 ·
So.. what is the general review of the Dunlop SP Winter Sport 3D winter tires... So far they seem not too bad... better than the viking (rebranded econo Conti) and the Canadian tire Good year winter tires which were also OK... Granted... I am leasing this car so I may not get the chance to replace my winters before I trade it in for another car... so I may have my Dunlops for the 3 years remaining on the lease... But who knows I may end up buying out the lease on this one like I did my last car.

Anyway... in the winter, anything is better than non winter tires in the snow and ice... I've had all seasons on an AWD car and it was horrible compared to winters on my FWD cars


On my SE-R Spec V, my Pirelli winter snowsport 210 tires were really quite good unless on super slick glare ice or really deep snow.... These seem similar to the dunlops... perhaps not as good on the corner ice but in the dry and wet they are really good... and I think they handle puddles or slush better.


Braking seems to be pretty good too with the Dunlops, even on slick ice... it is just the harder cornering that I am not sure about yet. I tried the car without the traction aid and well.. they are not nearly as nice.. but still seem ok for winter riding... not to mention this car as about 70-80 HP more than my last car and a lot more driver aids so it is a bit harder to compare the two.

Reviews seem to place these newer Dunlops much higher than the old Graspic tires and close to most of the other top 5 brands so given the price I figured it was worth a shot....

Is there really any fully winter non studded tire that kicks ass? (blizzaks are 50 winter 50 all season so have a short winter life) I want decent handling/wearing dedicated non-studded winter tire that is really good on ice as well as the dry cold road handling?

All winter tires I've had seem to be killer on the shallow, loose and hard packed snowy roads and sanded slick roads... I rarely hit axle deep snow or deeper so I am more interested in wet/dry, sport handling as well as the hard cornering on typical northern US/Canadian winter roads. with the braking still being ok, but they don't have to be Winter Race Rally studded tires or anything.

My last goodyear/cheapo winters were better in deeper snow but sucked on wet roads and only ok on the handling and kicked the ass out on slick corners.

The best so far were the Pirellis, the only down side to them was hard braking and quick acceleration on glare ice... everything else was good... or predictable when at the limits.


Winter has been easy here so far so I've not really had the chance to test out these Dunlop SP Winter Sport 3D tires to the limits yet.... Oh... and does the ass-happy characteristics of the car in hard summer handling carry over to the winter? My Sentra SE-R Spec-V was super predictable... not awesome.. but predictable so I always knew what it was going to do... I don't get the same feeling from my ST so far.... perhaps it is all the electronic aids that are throwing me off?
 
#2 ·
wow that's a lot of text - didn't quite get through all of it, but I think I can offer some input.

I've ran Blizzaks, Michelins, and Dunlops for snow tires over the past 15 years.
for hardcore ice - you can't beat the Blizzaks, they will go anywhere.
Michelins are solid all around winters.
But my favorites are the Dunlops.

I leased an S2K here in Cleveland Ohio and ran the Dunlop Winter Sport 3Ds on that car for 3 years. LOVED THEM.
Plenty of snow grip. Ice grip, though not as aggressive as the Blizzaks, was very sufficient. The best thing with these tires, they hold up to higher temps very well.
If you have a few days/weeks where the roads have been cleared, the Dunlops still provide you with relatively near summer tire characteristics (I said relatively, they are not a summer tire competitor, I know)

Back on topic, for the FST I just bought the Dunlop Winter Sport 4D's (their 3D nexgen). I'm very excited to put them on the car.
I do run OEM sizes for winter tires - just my preference.

As for how the cars lift throttle oversteer works in the winter - this is my first winter with the car - someone else will need to contribute on that topic.
 
#4 ·
It'd be interesting to hear how the 4Ds do... I have heard they are a little better on lateral grip on slick surfaces and accelerating... but I didn't see then when I got the 3D version... but either way I am not really disappointed.

wow that's a lot of text - didn't quite get through all of it, but I think I can offer some input.

Back on topic, for the FST I just bought the Dunlop Winter Sport 4D's (their 3D nexgen). I'm very excited to put them on the car.
I do run OEM sizes for winter tires - just my preference.

.
 
#6 ·
I've run the General Altimax Arctic (sadly unstudded thanks to NYS laws :() on a few cars. Superb grip in light to heavy snow, pretty solid on ice, and good in cold and wet conditions. On my WRX, I was nearly unstoppable. Dry grip isn't great, but it's a winter tire. Plus, the price is great. I just pick them up from Tire Rack in CT and rock and roll- mine are going on the ST this weekend :) Mark W.