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I have test drove both of these cars.. I didn't get to test drive the Mustang as much as i would like, but i test drove the Ford Focus ST 2016 and really loved it! It put a huge smile on my face and I was laughing. I like the looks of both but I do enjoy the more rally sporty look of the Ford Focus. I just want to know why everyone chose the ford focus over other cars and the ford mustang. Also if you bought a ford focus and would like to share your prices and package that would be cool. Also I would love to hear how everyone likes it as a daily, because I can only afford 1 car so it'll be my daily.
 

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Look up the what did you pay thread, it has 1000's of answers to that and more up to date deals that people reached to give you an idea on what to pay. As far as which car, I think they are significantly different vehicles. Mustang has more power, is larger and heavier and rwd. The focus is smaller, fwd and has a bunch more room for kids seats or other people traveling with you. It also comes off less aggressive and without mods is probably much less noticeable to the police.

What is your budget? What are your needs for the car besides a daily? Do you have kids, travel a lot etc... without more info it's hard to help.
 
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Thanks for the tip ��. Yes very true it does have an advantage over the focus with that horsepower.. I am very new to sport cars so I am not sure if I want fwd or rwd.. I have no kids, trip to work is about 35 miles 1 way, I would love to road trip when I acquire a fun car, and my budget is 25k-27k max.
 

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Have you been able to test drive either of them? Hopefully someone who has owned both chimes in later today as people wake up. I have only owned an ST so I can't comment too much on the mustangs.
 

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I can't speak to the Mustangs as I've never been interested enough in one to even look at or test drive it. I personally chose the FoST because I have a soft spot for hatchbacks and wagons. I really like the way the FoST looks and the practicality of a 4 door hatchback can't be beat, especially when it's as fun to drive as this car is. It's my one and only car, so it needs to be versatile. I came from a VW Golf which I really liked, and the extra space of the Focus hatch appealed to me even more. The Mustang, having two less doors and less cargo space, just wouldn't cut it for me on a day-to-day basis. I'm sure it's a good car and has more power to boot, but if I can't live with its limitations everyday as my only car, then it won't make the cut.

As for pricing, I got my 2016 ST3 with premium wheels, moon roof, and all season tires at the end of October for ~$27.5k after all was said and done. Paid $26k at the dealership and then about $1400 in taxes and registration when I got back to my home state. MSRP was $31,715 and car had 38 miles on the odometer when I picked it up. I believe rebates totaled ~$3,250 at the time of purchase and I did not opt for 0% financing in order to get an extra $1,500 in incentives.
 

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If you are going for the Stang, GT is the way to go. But if that isn't an option, id rather get the Focus as a daily than the EcoBoost Stang. The ST can seat 4 people more comfortably (although still kind of tight) than the mustang and it is cheaper to insure. Also from what I have heard (don't quote me on this) since the Stang is heavier, it is more prone to LSPI with that turbo. Can anyone actually chime on this?
 

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I picked the ST because its good at many different things. Its fun to drive and relatively cheap compared to a mustang. If you havnt already, get insurance quotes for both cars. For me the insurance cost alone turned me off mustang for now. My ST is insured for $100 per month as compared to $250/month mustang GT.

Also I have to deal with snow in the winter so RWD would not be best.
 

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Having lived with a couple of coupes, I decided life is just easier with a 4-door, and even easier than that with a 5-door. There may be some compromise in all-out performance against a Mustang, but the trade-off is worth it to me. But don't think I wouldn't love a 2.3 6-Speed Mustang in the garage for when I don't need to haul anything or anyone.
 

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I have owned three Mustangs and honestly after a while the small Interiors get to you and that's why I went with the focus this time around. I enjoyed the power yea but the fwd feels more sporty if that makes sense lol.
 

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When I was shopping for an ST and realized that I was getting into Mustang price territory, I started looking at the Mustangs. I liked the Ecoboost, but by the time you get the Ecoboost and the performance package, you are in GT price territory so then I started thinking maybe GT.
The whole Mustang idea was put to rest when I compared them side by side at the dealership. The Mustang is a BIG car outside, but a small car inside. The Focus is the other way around. Knowing that I regularly go camping with my son and his Boy Scout troop, I knew I would be better off with the four doors, hatch back, and five passenger seating of the ST. Also, Mustangs are everywhere. I know it doesn't matter, but I didn't want the same car as a bazillion other people. None of my friends had ever even heard of the ST. I pulled up to my buddy's house and he said, "What the hell is that?!" My brother said, "Uh...I don't know...it looks kind of Fast & Furiousy". Some of the neighbors love it, some hate it (because of the color, Tangerine Scream). The delivery guy at work (black senior citizen) said, I got to look at your little car, and it's real nice; but isn't that the kind of car that the "hip hoppers" drive?
Oh, and the Mustang was not available in Tangerine Scream. I have no regrets.
 

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When I was shopping for an ST and realized that I was getting into Mustang price territory, I started looking at the Mustangs. I liked the Ecoboost, but by the time you get the Ecoboost and the performance package, you are in GT price territory so then I started thinking maybe GT.
The whole Mustang idea was put to rest when I compared them side by side at the dealership. The Mustang is a BIG car outside, but a small car inside. The Focus is the other way around. Knowing that I regularly go camping with my son and his Boy Scout troop, I knew I would be better off with the four doors, hatch back, and five passenger seating of the ST. Also, Mustangs are everywhere. I know it doesn't matter, but I didn't want the same car as a bazillion other people. None of my friends had ever even heard of the ST. I pulled up to my buddy's house and he said, "What the hell is that?!" My brother said, "Uh...I don't know...it looks kind of Fast & Furiousy". Some of the neighbors love it, some hate it (because of the color, Tangerine Scream). The delivery guy at work (black senior citizen) said, I got to look at your little car, and it's real nice; but isn't that the kind of car that the "hip hoppers" drive?
Oh, and the Mustang was not available in Tangerine Scream. I have no regrets.
We don't have the same color tastes as I like to blend more than scream lol. But your reasoning is dead on and a great example of why I think a lot of us like our ST's instead of a stang.
 
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I have a 13 ST3. Pius moon roof and Nav. Like you said miles of smiles. I've owned fast cars before some I wish I still had. The St is a great car. Not for everyone if you enjoy road feel.miniture muscle car feeling it's your car. Mine is stage 2 freek tune by Rafii . cPE FMIC CAI MBRP fatback. Loads of room for more tune. Alot of people complain about the leather Recaro seats being too tight. I'm a med guy my girls a smaller bbw. Fits us both well. Like I said cars not for everybody. We live in the mountains of prescott Arizona This car loves the curves . You haven't lived until you rode with
me over Jerome mountain.......two lane curves with 100 ft drop offs. Didn't pick mustang because everybody has one. If they ever make a fast back that looks like Elenore then I might be interested.. personally I like the front n back of the 13 and 14 better then the 15 and up. Try it but it you'll like it. My girl daily drives it all the time.
 

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Knowing what I know now I would go with the Mustang GT. The ecoboost stang is just to pricey for the performance IMO. The GT Mustang gets nearly as good avg. MPG as the Focus ST. Now I didn't buy my ST as a daily so that is not a factor for me. I'm enjoying my ST but honestly for a bit more money I would have a car that I would enjoy even more.
 

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I like the Mustang, but only briefly considered it as I drive over 50k miles/year and I am a little suspect at a Mustang doing that without complaint and me dealing with the long nose and low seating in traffic all the time. I also need a decent amount of space for work materials and the Mustang would be pretty handicapped for that. Not work-related, I kayak and bike a lot and the ST also seems a better car for roof and hitch racks. Seeing as I came to the ST from a totaled 2012 SE 5-speed that was Toyota-reliable for over 200k miles, I was already partial to another Focus and the ST fixed all the annoyances of the SE (except for the uncomfortable seat bottom) and I went down to about 29 mpg from 36. The ST was also cheaper than an Ecoboost Mustang and isn't as noticeable to cops, but it wouldn't have mattered even if they were the same price as it's really just about the perfect car for me as a daily (could be perfect with a more comfortable seat bottom and being the full wagon version they offer in the EU).
 

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I don't know about the Mustang, but the Focus ST with the Recaro's is pretty awful for passengers north of 5'11". I'm 6'4 and my head in the passenger seat rubs against the headliner, and you're sitting so high up, it's like a truck. That being said, the drivers seat is fine, still a little high.

ST's got a hatch, it's more useful for hauling gear. It also sounds better than the 2.3
 

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Kids. And pets. And Costco trips. 4 Doors, a hatch and 5 seats are really handy. I would never have looked at this car otherwise. HOWEVER, it turned out to be the car I always wanted. It has a great personality in a world of soulless cars. My prior sports car was a 04 Pontiac GTO. That car was faster and more predictable, but it was clinically efficient. I liked that car, but I love my ST.
 

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Thanks for all the time everyone here has taken out of there day to reply to me! I agree the space in the mustang is zero to none, insurance is higher, everyone has them, and it does feel less fun and sporty! I am just a little worried driving stick everyday, because this is my one and only car. Don't get me wrong I love it. It just seems like it might get old in traffic , stop and go, how does this make everyone feel?. I just was told it has a up hill assist which is really awesome!
 

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I drive in Nashville traffic daily and to be honest even in stop and go its not bad. Ford did this little assist thing that helps keep the car from dying if the rpms drop too much. Since I'm in first a lot in the city during the heavier traffic portions its helpful lol. Plus having a BOV and a stickshift is fun if you get bored, and wanna hear it hiss around a red light. I'm immature in that reasoning lol.
 

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I don't know about the Mustang, but the Focus ST with the Recaro's is pretty awful for passengers north of 5'11". I'm 6'4 and my head in the passenger seat rubs against the headliner, and you're sitting so high up, it's like a truck. That being said, the drivers seat is fine, still a little high.

ST's got a hatch, it's more useful for hauling gear. It also sounds better than the 2.3
I'm 6 feet and my cousin is 6'6, both of us sit in the car fine. We are both skinny tho, I don't know how you are on that scale, but height wise it isn't even close to an issue.
 

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i am for Eu, so Mustang just come here last year. and i did a test drive in it. i was very very disappointed.
for me ecobost mustang is just not a sports car. it is more like a soft limo with sport look.
it feels slow compared to my stock ST, and it is definitely dives not so stable compared to ST.

and like you said, ST make smile on your face, what mustang didn' t.
so if you are buying car for yourself, not for showing off, i think you wrote answer for your self in your own post ;)
so just listen to your hart what does it tell you, and dont listen to your head that is screaming something else ;)
anyway it is not a rational decision, its fun car.
 
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