[Kyle McNabb]

Deadhook motorsports posted a photo of a new kit for the fiesta showing a compound turbo setup. Not sure the details of it and not sure if there will be a kit for the focus however I'm sure our chances are increased now that we have a new ford performance head with individual exhaust ports. Any turbo now can be mounted including a nice little twin setup.

 

[USAFST2]

I've thought about this several times. I'm not too sure why folks have chosen to stuff a turbo in the factory location for aftermarket setups. On top of that, I don't think the K03 would be so bad if it were feeding a more sizable turbo. I don't mean something that's completely out of its realm but, simply larger.

I imagine a K03 feeding a GTX30 wouldn't be super bad. Yeah, the K03 will end up being a restriction and stuff but, I think someone with a properly engineered kit could easily make a more efficient system with a second turbo slightly downstream of the K03.

 

[2.3T]

Are compound setups kind of outdated now that we have twinscroll turbos and the like? Just doesn't seem like a cost effective setup.

 

[USAFST2]

I'm not entirely sure a twin scroll turbo is possible with our stock head configuration. Mayhaps someone knows of a way but, without an exhaust manifold, I think it would be tricky to pull off.

 

[BlackT5]

Not possible to twin scroll with the headifold.

 

[shiak]

Ford released an individual ported head so it is now possible on the 2.0 and 2.3 engines

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[dilat3d]

Woah

Better get some sticky tires and LSD with that, but I bet it pulls!

 

[Stealth]

You guys crack me up. The current turbos out push this car faster than it needs to go. I already have lack of traction at around 450. Why would you want more hp unless you are straight dragging it.

 

[nickbaldwin86]

why not just get a 2.3 out of a mustang and have twin scroll? you will need custom down pipe and hot side charge pipe but otherwise

 

[Unfitproduct]

fast little eggs are fun.

 

[Kyle McNabb]

Deadhook makes a custom 2.3 stroker. My motor is being built by them for $4200. The 2.3 stroker is a few grand more I believe. Don't quote me on that. Individual ported head is around $600 with an endless amount of turbo options. If you have a shop that can do custom plumbing it will be loads cheaper than a 2.3 build. Some of us go different ways. I see our cars hitting high 600s by the end of this year, I've talked to Russell (owner of Deadhook) and has big plans for his fiesta and the focus. Traction isn't bad if you know how to use your right foot. Those going for huge hp numbers unsually have $$$ to spend on the upgrades making traction better. Look at the ms3, neons, civics hitting high 700s into the 1000 hp range, all fwd and they seem to do fine on the strip. All these upgrades coming out for big numbers and people are always complaining about traction and torque steer...

 

[Stealth]

So exactly what I said useless unless your straight dragging. Good luck daily driving slicks lol

 

[Kyle McNabb]

Nt01's work fine

 

[Nosjunke]

Nt01's work fine

NT01's FTW!

 

[USAFST2]

It isn't always about big power but, how the power comes on. I had this debate plenty of times during my years of owning Mustang's and Camaro's. No one understood why I would even consider forced induction unless I was attempting to crest past a specific horsepower number that they arbitrarily assigned to the given platform; or attempt to grenade my engine--because that's the true measure of the potential of a given kit.

What about having mid-high 300's on a very, very smooth, linear power-band? I know the argument will be that there are kits on the market currently that suit this need as they are full boost at 3k RPM. I'm not arguing that, necessarily. But as it stands right now, to me, this car is dead in the water below 3.5k RPM in stock form and only suddenly comes on for a few thousand RPM before falling off once again. Now granted, I haven't been able to tune my car (hurry up, Cobb) so, I don't have that perspective as of yet but, I still think that there's potential to expand in a compound setup that might give it that linear power-band that I'm after.

Now, I would sacrifice all of that for an exhaust system that didn't sound terrible.

 

[ddfred]

It isn't always about big power but, how the power comes on. I had this debate plenty of times during my years of owning Mustang's and Camaro's. No one understood why I would even consider forced induction unless I was attempting to crest past a specific horsepower number that they arbitrarily assigned to the given platform; or attempt to grenade my engine--because that's the true measure of the potential of a given kit.

What about having mid-high 300's on a very, very smooth, linear power-band? I know the argument will be that there are kits on the market currently that suit this need as they are full boost at 3k RPM. I'm not arguing that, necessarily. But as it stands right now, to me, this car is dead in the water below 3.5k RPM in stock form and only suddenly comes on for a few thousand RPM before falling off once again. Now granted, I haven't been able to tune my car (hurry up, Cobb) so, I don't have that perspective as of yet but, I still think that there's potential to expand in a compound setup that might give it that linear power-band that I'm after.

Now, I would sacrifice all of that for an exhaust system that didn't sound terrible.

Dead in the water prior to 3500? There must be something wrong here; in factory tune the engine makes peak torque around 2000 rpm.

 

[USAFST2]

Hmm. Not sure what's wrong then. I test drove a couple of ST's before I picked this one up. They all felt like absolutely nothing happened below 3.5k. My car is really no exception. It'll start to move around that RPM only if I have my foot in it and then it'll basically fall off around 5-5.5k.

 

[Kranny]

Hmm. Not sure what's wrong then. I test drove a couple of ST's before I picked this one up. They all felt like absolutely nothing happened below 3.5k. My car is really no exception. It'll start to move around that RPM only if I have my foot in it and then it'll basically fall off around 5-5.5k.

stock tune is limited by torque. stock turbo doesnt even reach "full" (18psi) boost until like 5 grand. if you get a tune, full boost (22-23psi) is achieved at like 2400rpm.

stock data log datazap.me | kranny | Stage 0 Run 2
tuned data log datazap.me | kranny | Mountune adjust 1B

 

[USAFST2]

So, I'm not crazy, then? I have no idea how much boost my car is making on average other than to assume it's performing as intended, stock-wise. I can tell you that on my normal commute, my boost gauge is very stagnant. It might budge slightly here and there but, I don't think I've ever seen that needle past 1/4-1/2 through.

Edit: so I drove my car around for about 45 minutes. Basically unless I'm lugging my engine or I'm wide open throttle, that needle never moves. It also did move past the 1/2 mark but fell very quickly.

 

[2.3T]

So, I'm not crazy, then? I have no idea how much boost my car is making on average other than to assume it's performing as intended, stock-wise. I can tell you that on my normal commute, my boost gauge is very stagnant. It might budge slightly here and there but, I don't think I've ever seen that needle past 1/4-1/2 through.

Edit: so I drove my car around for about 45 minutes. Basically unless I'm lugging my engine or I'm wide open throttle, that needle never moves. It also did move past the 1/2 mark but fell very quickly.

Something isn't right. ST's are torque monsters at a very low rpm, that is the benefit and curse of the tiny turbo.