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This info came from the MFBA's forum, and its great. Some of it is F-body related and I will go through and strip out the F-body stuff.
Maximum
Temperature (F) Pad Compound Selection Guide*
Up to 750F Most Semi-Metallic Street Pads including:
- Ferodo DS2500
- Hawk HPS
- Hawk HP Plus
- Hawk DTC-05
- PFC Carbon Metallic
- PFC Z-Rated
- Rofren Ultima Street
- Rofren Euro-Select
- Rofren Street Performance
750F -1000F Street Performance / Limited Track
use pads including:
- Ferodo DS2500
- Ferodo 4003
- Hawk HP Plus
- Hawk Black
- Hawk DTC-30
- Hawk DR-97
- PFC Z-Rated
- Rofren Street Performance
- Raybestos ST-38
- Raybestos ST-43
1000F -1250F Intermediate Race Pads including:
- Ferodo DS3000
- Ferodo DS1-11
- Hawk Blue 9012
- Hawk MT4 Blue
- Hawk HT10
- Hawk DTC-60
- Hawk DTC-70
- PFC 97 Compound
- PFC 01 Compound
- Raybestos ST-42
- Raybestos ST-43
1250F+
Ultra-High Temperature Race Pads including:
- Ferodo DS3000
- Ferodo DS3000+
- Ferodo DS3000 Endurance
- Ferodo DS1-11
- Hawk HT10
- Hawk HT14
- Hawk HT15
- Hawk DTC-60
- Hawk DTC-70
- PFC 01 Compound
- PFC 03 Compound
- Raybestos ST-41
- Raybestos ST-42
- Raybestos ST-43
*The preceding information is provided as a general guide only.
Each pad compound may have other substantially varying factors such as friction level (mu) and torque characteristics.
These factors, in addition to operating temperature range, should be considered when making pad compound choices for your specific application.
-----M3 used as price reference below-----
I've also added a "Paint Killer" column that indicates the pads either have dust that sticks like powder-coating if it gets wet, or they give off glowing embers that will pit your car and wheel paint. If there is a Y in this column I would strongly discourage you from using these on anything other than a race car.
Note, Hawk does not publish CoEff of Friction numbers since they think they are misleading.
Price for M3 should be about the same for 330Ci. Price is for font + rear unless noted.
----------------------USD F&R-----Coefficient-Fade-----Paint----Rotor
Pad-------------------for M3------of Friction-Temp F---Killer?--Wear
AXXIS Deluxe-----------$86--------??-----------716-------N------Very Low
AXXIS Ultimate--------$128--------0.46---------932-------N------Low
Carbotech Panther-----$273--------0.54--------1250-------N------??
Carbotech XP8---------$311--------0.58--------1350-------N------??
Carbotech XP9---------$311--------0.60--------1400-------N------Low
Carbotech XP10--------$343--------0.60+-------1600-------N------??
Carbotech XP11--------$343--------0.60++------1600+------N------??
Ferodo DS2500---------$288 -------0.50--------1000-------N------Low
Ferodo DS3000---------$404 -------0.62--------1382-------Y------Extreme when Cold
Hawk Blue-------------$285--------Medium------1100-------Y------Low Hot, Extreeme Cold
Hawk HT-10------------$337--------High--------1400-------N------Moderate
Hawk HT-14------------$189Front---Very High---1600-------N------Moderate/High
Hawk DTC-70-----------$224Front---High--------???--------?------?
Mintex Xtreme---------$????-------0.5-0.55----1300-------N------Moderate
PF97------------------$248Front---Med High----2000-------Y------Low
PF01------------------$455--------Very High---2000-------N------Very Low
Pagid Blue------------$377--------0.49--------1202-------N------??
Pagid Orange RS4-4----$377--------0.53--------1292-------N------Very Low
Pagid Black RS14------$397--------0.54--------1472-------N------Low
Pagid DrkBlu RS4-2-1--$311--------0.45---------932-------N------Low
Pagid Grey RS15-------$465--------0.62--------1652-------N------??
Pagid Yellow RS19-----$429--------0.49--------1382-------N------Low
Porterfield R4--------$340--------0.50--------????-------N------High
Williams F1.10--------$320--------0.62--------1760-------N------??
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More....
Another pad chart;
http://www.zenithmotorsports.com/docs/charts/brake_pad_reference.pdf
BRAKE FLUID comparison chart;
http://www.zenithmotorsports.com/docs/charts/brake_fluid.pdf
FLUID------------- DRY BOILING POINT(*F) -----------WET BOILING POINT (*F)--------------------SUGGESTED MSRP ($/VOLUME)
AP Super 600---------------590-------------- -------------------410------------------------------------------ $18.00/16.9oz
Castrol SRF------------------590-------------------------------- 518------------------------------------------- $69.99/33.8oz
NEO Super DOT 610----------598 ------------------------------421-------------------------------------------- $15.00/12oz
Motul Racing Brake Fluid 600--593------------------------------ 420------------------------------------------ $15.00/16.9oz
Motul DOT 5.1------------------509------------------------------- 365------------------------------------------ $6.50/16.9oz
ATE Super Blue Racing Fluid---536------------------------------ 392------------------------------------------ $11.99/33.8oz
Valvoline Synpower-------------503------------------------------ 343------------------------------------------ $4.97/16.9oz
ATE SL---------------------------500------------------------------- 329 -------------------------------------------$7.95/16.9oz
Castrol LMA---------------------450------------------------------- 311-------------------------------------------- $3.50/16.9oz
AP 551--------------------------528------------------------------- 288-------------------------------------------- $12.50/16.9oz
Wilwood 570--------------------573------------------------------ 313--------------------------------------------- $10.37/12oz
Wilwood EXP 600 Plus----------626------------------------------ 417--------------------------------------------- $20.25/16.5oz
Wilwood FIVE-------------------500------------------------------- 356--------------------------------------------- $14.03/12oz
AMSOIL 500 DOT3-------------525 --------------------------------313--------------------------------------------- $7.20/12oz
AMSOIL 600 DOT4-------------580--------------------------------- 410-------------------------------------------- $13.60/12oz
Brembo LCF 600 Plus----------601---------------------------------- 399-------------------------------------------- $19.95/500ml
Brembo SPORT.EVO 500++---520---------------------------------- 336-------------------------------------------- $8.99/250ml
US Brake Ultra HTX-------------618--------------------------------- 421-------------------------------------------- $13.88/16.9oz
Here is one for Pagid Pads different materials.
PAGID Racing
PAGID Racing
RS 4-2-1 – BLACK Friction Level Cold 0.36
At 100 C 0.38
At 300 C 0.42
Max 0.45 @ 500 C
Constant working temperature 300 - 500 C
Max temperature for short period only 550 C
RS 4-2 – BLUE Friction Level Cold 0.40
At 100 C 0.42
At 300 C 0.43
Max 0.46 @ 550 C
Constant working temperature 350 - 600 C
Max temperature for short period only 650 C
RS 4-4 – ORANGE Friction Level Cold 0.39
At 100 C 0.40
At 300 C 0.43
Max 0.49 @ 600 C
Constant working temperature 350 - 650 C
Max temperature for short period only 700 C
RS 14 – BLACK Friction Level Cold 0.44
At 100 C 0.47
At 300 C 0.49
Max 0.54 @ 600 C
Constant working temperature 400 - 700 C
Max temperature for short period only 800 C
RS 15 – GRAY Friction Level Cold 0.50
At 100 C 0.54
At 300 C 0.57
Max 0.62 @ 600 C
Constant working temperature 400 - 800 C
Max temperature for short period only 900 C
RS 19 – YELLOW Friction Level Cold 0.40
At 100 C 0.43
At 300 C 0.47
Max 0.49 @ 550 C
Constant working temperature 400 - 700 C
Max temperature for short period only 750 C
More pad references....
Raybestos;
http://porterfield-brakes.com/images/raycomp2008_11_06_03_35_07.pdf
Performance friction;
http://porterfield-brakes.com/images/pfccomp2009_02_13_12_21_02.pdf
Porterfield;
http://porterfield-brakes.com/images/portrace2008_11_06_02_43_53.pdf
More brake fluid reference;
Motul RBF 600
Boiling Point Wet 421 Dry 594
Motul RBF 660
Boiling Point Wet 399 Dry 617
Motul 5.1
Boiling Point Wet 365 Dry 522
BREMBO LCF600+
Boiling Point Wet 399 Dry 601
Castrol SRF
Boiling Point Wet 518 Dry 590
ATE Super Blue
Boiling Point Wet 392 Dry 536
More Hawk pad info;
http://porterfield-brakes.com/images/hawkracecomp2008_11_06_03_05_05.pdf
Stop tech brake technical pages good info here;
Technical White Papers
Here are a few general rules about how changes to your car can affect its handling.
Adjustment ---------- More Understeer ----------- More Oversteer
Front tire pressure -------- Lower----------------- Higher
Rear tire pressure---------- Higher--------------- Lower
Front tire section----------- Smaller ------------- Larger
Rear tire section ----------- Larger ------------ Smaller
Front wheel width --------- Narrower ---------- Wider
Rear wheel width ----------- Wider------------- Narrower
Front wheel camber-------- More positive ------ More negative
Rear wheel camber-------- More negative------- More positive
Front springs--------------- Stiffer---------------- Softer
Rear springs---------------- Softer---------------- Stiffer
Front sway bar------------- Thicker/stiffer-------- Thinner/softer
Rear sway bar ------------- Thinner/softer-------- Thicker/stiffer
Weight distribution -------- More forward--------- More rearward
Front aerodynamics-------- More downforce------ Less downforce
Rear aerodynamics-------- Less downforce------ More downforce