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On the way home from Mexico right before the border (lol) with my girlfriend (she's totally supportive of this) we came upon a Mustang and quickly saw the 40th anniversary badge and that he wouldn't let us pass. Soon enough he was speeding up and really not letting us pass...so I went to 4th and passed him only for him to creep up on us and get beside us and slow to about 50 and roll his window down. We 3 honked from 50 and I absolutely murdered him. Then he played down the highway a few miles and simply couldn't even make a competition out of it.

After looking into it more I see now the v8 was only 250hp at that year so I see why, but I think he was truly shocked. Gave me a wave before departing.
 

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Good kill man! i was with my buddy in his fiesta st and we walked one once, the dudes face was priceless.
This is my first serious shock of a kill I've had as a finally Stage 3 ST. I figured he put a beat down on me because I heard the v8 immediately, but heck even my girlfriend said "wow" out loud when I stepped way out ahead like I did. Flat foot shifting and all haha.
 

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Stang had to be close to stock for you to crush him. Now.....if he had full bolt-ons and 3.73 gears or 4.10's, different story. .....but good win just the same.
 

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Stang had to be close to stock for you to crush him. Now.....if he had full bolt-ons and 3.73 gears or 4.10's, different story. .....but good win just the same.
Other than exhaust note (which possibly might have been stock, couldn't tell over my turboback) I have no clue if he was but as hard as I pulled on him he must have been relatively stock
 

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Car engines have come a ways when a 2.0 ST walks a 5.0 Stang. Even with the different mods, I find the development and improvements to be the most interesting part of this.

Other interesting thing I noticed is your sig says PA but you were racing in MX. Damn border keeps moving around lol
 
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Other than exhaust note (which possibly might have been stock, couldn't tell over my turboback) I have no clue if he was but as hard as I pulled on him he must have been relatively stock
Yep....I had a '03 2V from 2008 to 2015. Bone stock and then spent about 10K putting go-fast parts on it right down to an aluminum driveshaft......a different car altogether but mostly due to swapping out gears. Mine had 3.73's.......really wakes the car up. On my Unleashed 93 tune, its a drivers race unless the Stang is running R-compound tires in which case from a dig, its getting out of the whole a whole lot faster than these fwd units. But from a roll on my E30 tune, the 'Stang isn't hanging..............lol..........all for less than $1,000 in mods. Stoopid funny!

With SN95 New Edge 'Stangs, just have to ask what gears they have and if from a dig, what tires they have in the rear. If they are running 2.73's or 3.27's, no matter what other mods they have, plunk down $500 and say "I'll give you a car length!"
 
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Car engines have come a ways when a 2.0 ST walks a 5.0 Stang. Even with the different mods, I find the development and improvements to be the most interesting part of this.

Other interesting thing I noticed is your sig says PA but you were racing in MX. Damn border keeps moving around lol
I agree entirely. I kept repeating to my girlfriend that without a doubt he was in his car thinking "That was a Focus..." unless he's familiar with our cars.

And hey what can I say we like to travel haha
 

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i have owned three 40th aniversary mustangs lol. two 3.9 v6's and a 4.6 v8. the 40th edition is nothing but nicer mirrors, floor matts, fake hood scoop, and shifter bezel. power wise they are the same as the non special edition. That being said good kill. The GT's are dogs in every way so unless they have gears they shouldn't give you any issues. Keep up the fun :) i'm sure you shocked him lol. That's been my favorite part from switching from mustangs to my ST. Surprising everyone I know in the mustang club here. With just an intake and tune i'm already running the same drag times as my GT did with intake, exhaust, catless midpipe, tune, and nitto 555r's.
 

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not really that impressive IMO but it does still put a smile on the face. Stock for stock the focus wins just barely

I had an 03 GT with many bolt ons and it only dynoed at 259/298 and 324/383 on a 90 shot
They aren't very high hp cars but damnit they are sexy.
 

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03 GT premium was my first car, absolutely loved it but yeah it was pretty slow even with bolt ons.

Now my most recent 04 Cobra 4.6L would murder most cars on the road with a few bolt ons and a tune. That was by far the most insane car I've ever owned. I loved walking the new 5.0s and 2007-2010 GT500s. They would look amazed every time I blew past them lol


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Had one pull up on me at a light . he looked over and said on green.lol. wasn't even a race.
Surprised he didn't get a decent jump with RWD...but yeah since I posted this a year and a half ago I know a little more about that generation of Mustang and yeah it's a no-contest usually. I will say owners of these are more inclined to play with you than most other cars on the road...the guy above me in my apartment just moved in back in June and he has a dark red 40th anniversary and he like...gives me a certain look as a fellow car guy which is both respectful but also sometimes I feel like he doesn't realize my Focus is faster than his Mustang...plus he is on either really beefy cheap all seasons or straight up winter tires. The tread is very deep and large. I'd kill him, no doubt.
 

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My second car was an 08 GT at first I thought it was fast but I realized after I got more into cars it was slow
 

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My second car was an 08 GT at first I thought it was fast but I realized after I got more into cars it was slow
Yup. Back in my home town where I grew up there is a clan of 96-04 generation mustangs that all thought their cars were just absolutely "the sh!t" and would run fat drag radials in the rear then nearly die when it would rain and complain about it on FB.

Smart kids.

I definitely think a lot of people who are young and jump into a Mustang feel it's "fast" and it certainly isn't "slow" per-say compared to a lot of cars...but the average 2018 SUV can stop the average 10+ year old Mustang from passing it if it wanted. Sure, certain models are faster and mods and tunes change a lot...but Joe Shmo Jr. in his dad's hand me down 2004 Mustang GT is gonna get this gap when he tries to pass my poor little 2.0 turbo Ford Focus then he will be like "what the hell" and realize what you realized not long ago.

Hell, look at the new 2018 Toyota Corolla/Camry, Honda Accord/Civic, Mazda 6/3, Kia Optima, etc. They all have options that make them output #s near, at, or higher than a stock Focus ST. Technology man...it makes muscle cars and our cars alike both cry.
 

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Yup. Back in my home town where I grew up there is a clan of 96-04 generation mustangs that all thought their cars were just absolutely "the sh!t" and would run fat drag radials in the rear then nearly die when it would rain and complain about it on FB.

Smart kids.

I definitely think a lot of people who are young and jump into a Mustang feel it's "fast" and it certainly isn't "slow" per-say compared to a lot of cars...but the average 2018 SUV can stop the average 10+ year old Mustang from passing it if it wanted. Sure, certain models are faster and mods and tunes change a lot...but Joe Shmo Jr. in his dad's hand me down 2004 Mustang GT is gonna get this gap when he tries to pass my poor little 2.0 turbo Ford Focus then he will be like "what the hell" and realize what you realized not long ago.

Hell, look at the new 2018 Toyota Corolla/Camry, Honda Accord/Civic, Mazda 6/3, Kia Optima, etc. They all have options that make them output #s near, at, or higher than a stock Focus ST. Technology man...it makes muscle cars and our cars alike both cry.
I didn't get into cars until after I got the Mustang and when I got the mustang I was just looking for v8 cars on cargurus. I got the mustang when I was 17 now being almost 19 I realized I shoulda did more research. I probably would've gotten something completely different than the mustang.
 

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Yup. Back in my home town where I grew up there is a clan of 96-04 generation mustangs that all thought their cars were just absolutely "the sh!t" and would run fat drag radials in the rear then nearly die when it would rain and complain about it on FB.

Smart kids.

I definitely think a lot of people who are young and jump into a Mustang feel it's "fast" and it certainly isn't "slow" per-say compared to a lot of cars...but the average 2018 SUV can stop the average 10+ year old Mustang from passing it if it wanted. Sure, certain models are faster and mods and tunes change a lot...but Joe Shmo Jr. in his dad's hand me down 2004 Mustang GT is gonna get this gap when he tries to pass my poor little 2.0 turbo Ford Focus then he will be like "what the hell" and realize what you realized not long ago.

Hell, look at the new 2018 Toyota Corolla/Camry, Honda Accord/Civic, Mazda 6/3, Kia Optima, etc. They all have options that make them output #s near, at, or higher than a stock Focus ST. Technology man...it makes muscle cars and our cars alike both cry.
They have numbers perhaps, but their electronic governors will prevent Any real performance in the high end.
 

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They have numbers perhaps, but their electronic governors will prevent Any real performance in the high end.
Are you referring to the SUVs or the brand family cars I mentioned? The SUVs are capable of 150+ often so I assume you meant the family cars...which they are all usually still capable of 130+ before they are governed...like the 301hp 270 something torque Camry XSE...it goes like 137 and will quite possibly beat a stock ST to that number. The Honda Accord 2.0t is nearly identical in performance as well with 14.3s 1/4 miles and 5.8 and 5.7s 0-60s respectively...our ST in stock form with normal tires and an average driver could lose easily to that lol. A shame

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Old man story: when I was in high school, the (more like 25th Anniversary) 5.0s were all owned by the kids whose parents bought them for them and they all they thought they were something . . . mini Vanilla Ices, maybe, I don't know, but obnoxious spoiled kids at least. Friend of mine with a big block Chevelle he restored with his father (weren't worth much yet) used to love driving through the square where they'd gather so he could drop it a gear and let it breathe through the glass packs. They'd always pretend they didn't see . . . or hear the car alarms that went off. I think one of my friends raced one of them in a Formula 350 and said he destroyed it. I wasn't there, but it was probably true. Funny to think of how slow those cars are by today's standards.

As I never cared much about what other people think of me and I was always a cheap prick, I had a 1984 Subaru wagon with all kinds of ridiculous **** on it. Girls loved it, it could take jumps off the ground, had a PA system that made animal noises, got more attention than the Ferraris or what not that I'd occasionally find to park next to, get 30 mpg foot to the floor (which needed to be done to get it to move), and the back seat could lay flat with a simple reach back from the front seat. I can say without any doubt in my mind that I had way more fun than any of those Mustang guys did. Damn, I had more fun with that car then than I do with the ST now come to think of it.
 
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