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With another day of competition to go, the FoSTs sit:
Blaha, sitting on his first run, is in 3rd 0.547 sec from 1st
Cochran 7th, coning his final run
Kirkland in 10th, no improvement on his final run
Casino in 12th, collected 5(!) cones on his final run
Anthony in 20th after improving 0.5 sec from second run

Very tight competition as 2nd through 19th are only 1 second apart!
 

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With another day of competition to go, the FoSTs sit:
Blaha, sitting on his first run, is in 3rd 0.547 sec from 1st
Cochran 7th, coning his final run
Kirkland in 10th, no improvement on his final run
Casino in 12th, collected 5(!) cones on his final run
Anthony in 20th after improving 0.5 sec from second run

Very tight competition as 2nd through 19th are only 1 second apart!
Looking at the official results

Looks like on day 1, the best FoST time (69.180) was about .5 off the best Civic (68.633). On day 2, best FoST time (68.615) was about .4 back to the top time (68.227). Definitely seems like the car is solidly in the mix still.
 

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It's good to see the ST as still being a competitive car, though the first 15+ car was 31st. Probably more of a who is driving the car, I can't imagine that shocks make 2+ second difference.
Dan Cochran is here local, and I was about .5 seconds off him around a 45-second course at the last event before nats. So that's a good sign if I plan to go to Nats next year.
 

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I recollect Dan Cochran saying this was his final year with the ST? Don't know what car is next for him.

Sorry I was enroute to Mt. Bachelor on Friday and couldn't listen to the final runs.
 

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It's good to see the ST as still being a competitive car, though the first 15+ car was 31st. Probably more of a who is driving the car, I can't imagine that shocks make 2+ second difference.
Dan Cochran is here local, and I was about .5 seconds off him around a 45-second course at the last event before nats. So that's a good sign if I plan to go to Nats next year.
Thats awesome! Just dont show up with your access port or you will for sure get protested whether you say you remove the tune or not before running. Not sure if you follow the STH FB page but a very well known Golf R was protested for a non class legal mod, taking him out of his trophy spot.
 

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Thats awesome! Just dont show up with your access port or you will for sure get protested whether you say you remove the tune or not before running. Not sure if you follow the STH FB page but a very well known Golf R was protested for a non class legal mod, taking him out of his trophy spot.
I mean, they could protest me all they want, as long as I could prove that the tune was uninstalled it wouldn't matter. Though I probably wouldn't even bring it with me since it does me no good out there, and the headache of being protested doesn't sound fun.
 

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I mean, they could protest me all they want, as long as I could prove that the tune was uninstalled it wouldn't matter. Though I probably wouldn't even bring it with me since it does me no good out there, and the headache of being protested doesn't sound fun.
165 bucks is all it takes at Nats to be protested, and even if the tune isnt loaded, having the AP there is enough probable cause for you to be DSQ'd. The said Golf R I am talking about has already been DSQ'd and has to file an appeal to prove his innocence/interpretation of the rule. Basically guilty until proven innocent.
 

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I'm confused. ECU tuning is legal in STH, what was the protest?
No it is legal in STH, foshjowler runs an AP, but he is a GS car. From my understanding he doesn't run it for events, but he says he uses it for logging. At Nats if his competitors where to see that, they would most certainly protest it.

The car in STH that was protested has an aftermarket LSD installed, but according to the rule (12a I believe), the haldex that comes equipped on that golf R is considered a type of LSD which in turn makes it illegal to install an LSD on an AWD car for that class.
 

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The car in STH that was protested has an aftermarket LSD installed, but according to the rule (12a I believe), the haldex that comes equipped on that golf R is considered a type of LSD which in turn makes it illegal to install an LSD on an AWD car for that class.
Sounds open and shut to me, shrug. I'd love to have an aftermarket rear diff in the Evo but it aint legal.

There used to be language in the street touring rules (before ECUs were opened up) that if you had multiple maps, all of them had to be legal, so that you couldn't push the cruise control button to switch maps or whatever. There are other solutions to datalogging like $40 bluetooth OBDII readers so not having an AP would make sense.
 

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There used to be language in the street touring rules (before ECUs were opened up) that if you had multiple maps, all of them had to be legal, so that you couldn't push the cruise control button to switch maps or whatever. There are other solutions to datalogging like $40 bluetooth OBDII readers so not having an AP would make sense.
For locals, I switch it to the "Stage 0" tune and used to leave it up to experiment with how to get the lowest charge temps, but now I just take it down. The stage 0 is, from my understanding, a copy of the factory calibration, and it takes about half the time to switch. At bigger events, I'll totally uninstall the AP and leave it in a bag, so that I'm actually class legal.
 

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Annie Gill will return to GS competition at 2020 Nationals with her own 2019 Honda Civic Si in blue. She'll certainly use it in Pro Solo, but unclear if she'll continue using her Type R in DS for Tours.

Des Toups, after dominating the 2018 west coast major events in GS is also returning to GS for 2020 with a blue 2019 Honda Civic Si since he sold the red 2018 Si to Dieter Beldi back in June. Dieter is always buying Des' castoff cars, so I'm wondering if he'll be picking up the Miata Des bought just before Packwood Tour, too.

I'm beginning to feel like the only FoST holdout on the west coast now that Yongzhe Wen is out of the game and Kaustav Acharya has abandoned his. I think there's still Chris & Pamela Kannan, Howard Yang, and Brandon Osborne, but they only ran at Crow's Landing and didn't go to Nationals (like I only ran at Packwood and didn't go to Nationals).
 

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GS has been getting tougher and cars like the latest SI that have been taking hold of the top spots and with great talent piloting them, it doesnt make it easier for the FoST.
 
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