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A buddy of mine messaged me today who hasn't seen my car yet but knows I have it and apparently found this interesting information on Axlegeeks.

2014 Ford Focus ST 4dr Hatchback vs 2006 Mitsubishi Eclipse GT 2dr Hatchback (3....

I think that's some of the closest comparisons I've ever seen between two very different cars other than the 200lb weight difference. Think I would beat him? (Might find out Fri/Sat)

Edit: Even the dimensions of the exterior/interior are interestingly similar.
 

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Definitely the eclipse. It has 2 more cylinders and 1.8 more liters.
 

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The eclipse hasnt been a performance car since 1999 with the end of the 4G63T line, first and second gen Eclipses are something to talk about. Everything after that.....meh
 

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Only one way to find out lol, but if you can record too should be interesting. Anything done to your fost?
Cobb CAI, Motor Mounts, and Cobb Short shift are the only "go fast parts" that are worth mentioning. Tune here in like 2 weeks.
 

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Definitely the eclipse. It has 2 more cylinders and 1.8 more liters.
I honestly disagree...the 0-60 AND 1/4 mile is the exact same driver depending, and he's governed at 132 apparently with a 149 top speed when disabled. There's nothing too glaring that makes it look like he'd beat me.

If anything I would just say the age of his car causing a slight loss of performance would give ME the advantage let alone the 300 pound difference in weight of my car - spare tire gear
 

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I'd say the odds are in your favor. 1.8 more liters means nothing when there's a turbo involved. People say there's no replacement for displacement but that's not how I live my life
 

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I think that the numbers on paper are $hit.... listen... a 67 shelby pushing 425+ HP stands no chance against a new mustang with 425 hp... even IF you made them identical in weight height dimensions etc.. newer car is going to beat older car.. it's not the same 425hp.. In this case... 10yr old eclipse vs focus st... driver or not.. the st should win easily.
 

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Tuned, I'd give the ST the nod. No tune and I'd say the Eclipse, all things being equal. Curb weight from a roll means a lot less than from a dig.
 

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I just can't find it within myself to believe a 10 year old car with probably less HP due to age being able to pull as hard even at highway speeds from a roll. It looks like he probably won't be able to meet up with me Friday or Saturday because he has to work security detail those days now.



He's scared
 
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Eclipse is down 10 lb-ft on torque and weighs 249 lbs more. I think you'll take him if your launch is perfect.
 

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Here is a modded mitsu vs basically a stock MS3.



Racing is not just about HP and TQ. Gearing plays a big role.

Prime Example. Gen1 vs Gen2 MS3. Same HP, with only about 100lb difference between the two. Gearing in longer in the Gen2, so the Gen1 is quicker. Gen2 is the faster car, but when roll racing, the Gen1 will win.
 

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I've raced a 2005 Eclipse GT and walked it (from a roll not a dig), I don't know how much they changed with the new model but I'd imagine it would be pretty similar.
 

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Above all else I'm excited to find a car so comparable to ours that hasn't been mentioned that I've seen before
 

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I honestly disagree...the 0-60 AND 1/4 mile is the exact same driver depending, and he's governed at 132 apparently with a 149 top speed when disabled. There's nothing too glaring that makes it look like he'd beat me.

If anything I would just say the age of his car causing a slight loss of performance would give ME the advantage let alone the 300 pound difference in weight of my car - spare tire gear
I was kidding. A v6 camry would be a more interesting race. This shouldn't even be a discussion.
 
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