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    So I needed new tires and I order some General g-max AS-05's to replace the originals that succumbed to my wifes park by feel method. Stock snowflakes. I'm at Americas Tire watching them take off the lugnuts,(also stock) and the guy is beating the socket on with a hammer. "Whats going on here", says I. Oh my socket doesn't fit, the caps on the lug nuts are swollen... says he. Get me the manager please, something is not right. Manager looks at the now boogered up lug nuts and tells me the same thing. Unsat says I, new lug nuts are needed please no charge to me . grumble grumble, but new lugs are replaced. Now, I am no metallurgist, but I have been working with metal for a few years and have never heard of the metal swelling. Maybe if there was corrosion that caused the nut under the cap to rust and it pushed out but, as I live in Ventura, California where we get very little rain usually and there is no salt on the roads because it snows even less frequently, I am at a loss as to what would cause lug nut swelling. If anyone has ever heard of this phenomenon, please enlighten me. Thanks, Jim

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    Quote Originally Posted by jmm03 View Post
    So I needed new tires and I order some General g-max AS-05's to replace the originals that succumbed to my wifes park by feel method. Stock snowflakes. I'm at Americas Tire watching them take off the lugnuts,(also stock) and the guy is beating the socket on with a hammer. "Whats going on here", says I. Oh my socket doesn't fit, the caps on the lug nuts are swollen... says he. Get me the manager please, something is not right. Manager looks at the now boogered up lug nuts and tells me the same thing. Unsat says I, new lug nuts are needed please no charge to me . grumble grumble, but new lugs are replaced. Now, I am no metallurgist, but I have been working with metal for a few years and have never heard of the metal swelling. Maybe if there was corrosion that caused the nut under the cap to rust and it pushed out but, as I live in Ventura, California where we get very little rain usually and there is no salt on the roads because it snows even less frequently, I am at a loss as to what would cause lug nut swelling. If anyone has ever heard of this phenomenon, please enlighten me. Thanks, Jim
    The OEM lugnuts are two piece. A crappy Stainless that is stamped, then wrapped on a regular steel lugnut. So the outer wrap gets warped when it's impacted. Mine are still fine, because I use hand tools on them. It's a common problem.
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    This is a known problem with our cars, I live real close to you in Simi. I'm so glad I have aftermarket wheels lol. Get a McGard wheel install kit. The Gorilla kits that Americas tire gave you are garbage.

    Our stock lug nuts are cheap Chinese garbage that have a soft cap and after ford and other shops rotate your tires using impact guns, they either strip or bulge due to the soft caps getting shafted.

    Trust me, the McGard ones will last you a lifetime.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 5dmc1 View Post
    This is a known problem with our cars, I live real close to you in Simi. I'm so glad I have aftermarket wheels lol. Get a McGard wheel install kit. The Gorilla kits that Americas tire gave you are garbage.

    Our stock lug nuts are cheap Chinese garbage that have a soft cap and after ford and other shops rotate your tires using impact guns, they either strip or bulge due to the soft caps getting shafted.

    Trust me, the McGard ones will last you a lifetime.

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    How are the gorilla lug nuts garbage? Been running them for over a decade on multiple vehicles. No issues.

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    Quote Originally Posted by UnfocusedST View Post
    How are the gorilla lug nuts garbage? Been running them for over a decade on multiple vehicles. No issues.

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    This.....I probably have taken my wheels and tires off/on more every month between all the racing I do than most would the entire time they've owned their car and my gorilla's have held up just fine.
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    I'd hate to see what some of you think about the mishimoto aluminum ones I run, lmfao
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    I have been a technician for a while, and ALL of these ford lug nuts swell between the crappy chrome coating and the aluminum lol you owe that boy an apology
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    Quote Originally Posted by UnfocusedST View Post
    How are the gorilla lug nuts garbage? Been running them for over a decade on multiple vehicles. No issues.

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    I get that opinion from the images on the reviews page on Amazon, lots of images of them rusted and stripped out.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 5dmc1 View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by UnfocusedST View Post
    How are the gorilla lug nuts garbage? Been running them for over a decade on multiple vehicles. No issues.

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    I get that opinion from the images on the reviews page on Amazon, lots of images of them rusted and stripped out.

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    I've had black gorilla lugs on my ST for about 8 months now, they're great. The black color is still black, they don't swell, they hold up fine after many "off & back on" procedures

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    I was questioning the description of the condition of the nuts really. The outer cover was deformed from previous rotations, that was sort of evident, what I objected to was the "tech" pounding on the socket and gouging the nuts because he did not line up the socket on the flats and then spun the impact wrench. It looks like there is less bearing surface on the conical area of the gorilla nuts than the OEM ones is that true or does it just look that way? Jim

 

 
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