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    Quote Originally Posted by galaxy7 View Post
    The vast majority of AN type in line thermostats open at either 180* or 200*; a perfect place to open. They are closed below this to prevent oil from circulating through the oil cooler. Below 200, you don't need an oil cooler...that's why. Without a thermostat, an engine with an oil cooler may tend to run the oil too cool, especially in winter.



    And the point of a thermostat is to prevent the temperatures from running too cold when the vehicle (that has an oil cooler) is NOT under prolonged load.
    Exactly! You want it when you need it and you don't when you don't need it.


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    Quote Originally Posted by [email protected] View Post

    Other reasoning for not offering it is because they can fail and because they're expensive. If There was a benefit we'd offer it.
    Thermostats in general if they fail will fail in the open position. This is true for coolant thermostats, engine oil coolers thermostats, etc. etc..
    This means that worse case when it fails will act like there is no thermostat, for safety reasons.
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    Quote Originally Posted by DanM View Post
    Thermostats in general if they fail will fail in the open position. This is true for coolant thermostats, engine oil coolers thermostats, etc. etc..
    This means that worse case when it fails will act like there is no thermostat, for safety reasons.
    I've got to respectfully disagree. Most Thermostats stick closed more often in my 33 years of experience working on cars resulting in an overheating condition. If I had a nickel for every cracked head I've had to replace due to repeated over-heating from closed thermostats we may not be having this conversation...

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    Quote Originally Posted by galaxy7 View Post
    And the point of a thermostat is to prevent the temperatures from running too cold when the vehicle (that has an oil cooler) is NOT under prolonged load.
    It will never run very far below normal operating temperature with a cooler. As I said, the cooler will keep the temperatures from rising above normal.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Duece McCracken View Post
    Well its probably Kevin, since Danmad32 is already in this thread, between the two of them I don't know who else you would need, lol.
    Kevin know's what he's doing. He's a regular tracker her in AZ, so he can tell you allll about cooling.
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    Quote Originally Posted by [email protected] View Post
    I've got to respectfully disagree. Most Thermostats stick closed more often in my 33 years of experience working on cars resulting in an overheating condition. If I had a nickel for every cracked head I've had to replace due to repeated over-heating from closed thermostats we may not be having this conversation...
    Maybe its a European thing. I have been working on Benzs for over a decade and have yet to see one fail in the closed position. I will be honest, I am not as familiar with the domestic scene. I had a socket set with fractions on them, what the hell is that? lol j/k.
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    Quote Originally Posted by DanM View Post
    Maybe its a European thing. I have been working on Benzs for over a decade and have yet to see one fail in the closed position. I will be honest, I am not as familiar with the domestic scene. I had a socket set with fractions on them, what the hell is that? lol j/k.
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    How imperative is an oil cooler if you're on an upgraded IC, but still on the stock tune? I have a track day at Putnam Park (Higher speed course, most corners will be 3rd gear or faster) and expect the ambient temps to be around 75-85*F. Would you guys reccomend installing an oil cooler when tracking this thing on the stock tune?

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    Quote Originally Posted by NEATdrives View Post
    How imperative is an oil cooler if you're on an upgraded IC, but still on the stock tune? I have a track day at Putnam Park (Higher speed course, most corners will be 3rd gear or faster) and expect the ambient temps to be around 75-85*F. Would you guys reccomend installing an oil cooler when tracking this thing on the stock tune?
    If your sessions are 20+ minutes long, and if your driving style is at all aggressive, it's quite possible that you will overheat.


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    Quote Originally Posted by NEATdrives View Post
    How imperative is an oil cooler if you're on an upgraded IC, but still on the stock tune? I have a track day at Putnam Park (Higher speed course, most corners will be 3rd gear or faster) and expect the ambient temps to be around 75-85*F. Would you guys reccomend installing an oil cooler when tracking this thing on the stock tune?
    I agree with @Judas . It's not about the tune it's about how you drive, how long you'll be driving and that this car will over heat when under long periods of aggressive driving.

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