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    Am I the only one who likes the symposer sounds?

    I was looking at an exhaust.... to make my car sound cool. Evidently there is no performance benefit unless you go with a bigger turbo so it is just for sound. But you know, I kind like the way it sounds now. So I talked myself out of buying an aftermarket exhaust. As Forrest Gump would say...."one less thing".


    So then I was looking at an intake. But, it turns out that doesn't do all that much for performance either. It does change how things sound but since I already like how my car sounds I figure I better leave well enough alone.

    So then I thought I might get a tune for more power. But mostly it just gives me more torque right in the range where I don't really need it. I'd like more power up high, not torque down low, so I talked myself out of a tune.

    Hell... may as well keep the damn thing stock until I'm ready to jump into the deep water!

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    With all respect I was kinda chuckling at you while reading this. I agree if the mods do not make sense to you, don't spend the money. You are 100% correct the stock ST is pretty sweet no upgrades needed at all to have a good time. But then the moding bug bites you. I really do not want to sound rude but you would not have came here if you did not want a discussion, so here are my honest thoughts.

    I liked the symposer too at first, I thought for sure would never remove. LOTS of people have said that before on this forum. Trust me you will get sick of it. I dont have an exhaust (though I dream of having one), but after removing the symposer I will never put it back on. It is this simple. Do you like ricer zoom zoom noises, or real engine growl? Thing is our 4 cylinder is amazingly good at creating a fairly deep tone, it sounds great in its natural state, it just is not very loud without an exhaust. Do not get me started on that wonderful sound of your turbo spooling once you upgrade the intake, you definitely want to be able to hear that with the windows down, the symposer just gets in the way of that.

    Then also I definitely understand the desire to stay away from tuning, I definitely do not disagree with anyone who is worried about warranty/reliability issues, I definitely had that frame of mind at one time too. But you research the reliability of tuners & the options seem pretty solid. So eventually you convince yourself you will just give it a try & go really easy on the car, only use it once in a while. You buy yourself a COBB Accessport as they are clearly the best option out there. At this point you are ****ing scared man, you dont want to ruin your brand new car. But you install the tune anyways because everyone keeps telling you it will be "fine" and really "awesome". So okay installation goes through just fine, you sigh relief, did it really work? You take the car out for a spin to find out. It does not take long at all, first take off & you come to the realization this car has so much more potential than the factory allowed it. The boost can jump to 3/4 on even the slightest attempts. The butt dyno tells you you are definitely going way too fast.

    Next thing you know you are shopping for an intercooler. Installing motor mounts. Getting high end tires. Eventually you fall victim to the big turbo crowd. Its terrible **** man. You are probably good to stay away.

    p.s. welcome to the forum. Let me re-iterate, no harm in staying stock, you still get mad respect here regardless because we are all in on the big secret: Focus ST's are freakin sweet.
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    The sound symposer is great! I have one in my garage if you would like it...

    My only real problem with it, other than the intake being used to simulate exhaust tone, is the name Ford gave it. Active Sound Symposer (A.S.S.).

    You should do what you want with your ST; don't let anyone tell you otherwise!


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    Quote Originally Posted by Straightline View Post
    With all respect I was kinda chuckling at you while reading this. I agree if the mods do not make sense to you, don't spend the money. You are 100% correct the stock ST is pretty sweet no upgrades needed at all to have a good time. But then the moding bug bites you. I really do not want to sound rude but you would not have came here if you did not want a discussion, so here are my honest thoughts.

    I liked the symposer too at first, I thought for sure would never remove. LOTS of people have said that before on this forum. Trust me you will get sick of it. I dont have an exhaust (though I dream of having one), but after removing the symposer I will never put it back on. It is this simple. Do you like ricer zoom zoom noises, or real engine growl? Thing is our 4 cylinder is amazingly good at creating a fairly deep tone, it sounds great in its natural state, it just is not very loud without an exhaust. Do not get me started on that wonderful sound of your turbo spooling once you upgrade the intake, you definitely want to be able to hear that with the windows down, the symposer just gets in the way of that.

    Then also I definitely understand the desire to stay away from tuning, I definitely do not disagree with anyone who is worried about warranty/reliability issues, I definitely had that frame of mind at one time too. But you research the reliability of tuners & the options seem pretty solid. So eventually you convince yourself you will just give it a try & go really easy on the car, only use it once in a while. You buy yourself a COBB Accessport as they are clearly the best option out there. At this point you are ****ing scared man, you dont want to ruin your brand new car. But you install the tune anyways because everyone keeps telling you it will be "fine" and really "awesome". So okay installation goes through just fine, you sigh relief, did it really work? You take the car out for a spin to find out. It does not take long at all, first take off & you come to the realization this car has so much more potential than the factory allowed it. The boost can jump to 3/4 on even the slightest attempts. The butt dyno tells you you are definitely going way too fast.

    Next thing you know you are shopping for an intercooler. Installing motor mounts. Getting high end tires. Eventually you fall victim to the big turbo crowd. Its terrible **** man. You are probably good to stay away.

    p.s. welcome to the forum. Let me re-iterate, no harm in staying stock, you still get mad respect here regardless because we are all in on the big secret: Focus ST's are freakin sweet.
    Ha.... I've listened to the YouTube videos. They mostly sound like crap to me and I don't want to listen to my car going PSST between every gear shift. Maybe I'd change my mind if I didn't have to drive the thing for work every day.

    In terms of tunes wrecking my car with a tune that isn't my concern. Heat, detonation and abuse are what wreck an engine. You can cause any/all to varying degrees with a tune but you can also improve all three and you can actually monitor things that an average driver would never catch. The AccessPort is like the Force. It can be used for good or evil.

    I love this car. I hope I still love it in 3-4 years when I have over 100K on it but time will tell. I'm 100% confident that it won't stay stock and I'm just being a stinker with this post..... the big turbo is as certain as death & taxes for me.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ddfred View Post
    The sound symposer is great! I have one in my garage if you would like it...

    My only real problem with it, other than the intake being used to simulate exhaust tone, is the name Ford gave it. Active Sound Symposer (A.S.S.).

    You should do what you want with your ST; don't let anyone tell you otherwise!
    Well that explains it then. I've always been an ASS man.
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    Best thing about this forum is that people 100% understand that it is possible to be completely happy with the car stock
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    Quote Originally Posted by Samh View Post
    Best thing about this forum is that people 100% understand that it is possible to be completely happy with the car stock
    And they will happily give you opinions on your questions too. No one will say you must do this or that but they are usually pretty helpful giving you the pro's and cons.

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    I removed the sound symposer at like 2000 miles or maybe even less. I literally bought the part right after the car. I hated it even on the test drive at the dealer but I knew of a fix so I overlooked it.

    Yeah man enjoy the car however you like it

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    You're obviously not the only one! I liked it if you truly didn't want to mod anything. However, I MUCH prefer the sound of the turbo sucking air, and when you're pulling boost you can hear it whistling. So it's really just whatever sound you prefer, you can get the sucking/whooshing, etc and spend zero dollars by removing the top of the intake box, or spend a few dollars to add a filter which will give a little more noise.

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    I like the symposer. I liked it on my '14 and I like it on my '18. No intention of removing it. My '18 is still stock and the only mods I intend will be those that will allow me to remain in G-street for autocross. I'll get around to those eventually...


 

 
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