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    Exclamation A call for help to current ST owners from a 2012 Focus owner.

    Hey guys,

    Long story short, over the last year, I've been through a nightmare with front suspension clunking issues on my 2012 Focus. I've tried multiple fixes on my own coin; new springs, new dampers, new strut mounts, new strut bearings, new strut mount bolts, higher torque specs, etc. While the stiffer ST strut mounts did help a lot, the noise is still present.

    So, I've been paying attention on here for any suspension noise complaints to arise from any ST owners, and I've yet to see anyone say a word. I've also driven an ST for my own impressions, and couldn't hear any noises myself (and now I really want to buy one, too).

    Here's a photo of a 2013 Focus Titanium strut tower:


    For comparison purposes, here's a photo of my strut tower on my '12 SE.


    Note the thicker bolt spacer and the fact that my car does NOT have the 4-5mm thick steel plate under the factory strut tower brace. This plate signifies that Ford has recognized that there was a problem with early production vehicles, and has fixed it with the addition of that plate. However, though it seems that they have found a fix, they have refused to even offer this as a fix to existing 2012 owners, of which there are dozens, with the same issue. While some have had success in getting Ford to replace parts under warranty, the noise always comes back, or never even goes away. I also haven't see any complaints from 2013 Focus owners about suspension noise.

    Here's my request: Tell me whether you have had any issues with clunks or rattles from the front strut area. Also, if you can, I just need a few of you to grab a quick photo of your strut tower area on your car, similar to the photo of the 2013 Focus Ti that I posted. It doesn't need to be a fancy photo, I just need proof that the ST comes with the strut tower plate.

    Also, if there are any Ford techs or parts employees on here, it would be super awesome if you could locate the part number for the bolts and the plate. Fordparts.com seems to not have the part listed anywhere for some strange reason, or it's under a category that it shouldn't be.

    I would really appreciate the help. I've wasted far too much time, money, and energy on a problem that Ford refuses to acknowledge with it's customers. Others are suffering from the same frustration. Here's the thread on Focus Fanatics about this issue: CLICK.

    Also, if you could please complete this survey: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/...B1Zmc6MA#gid=0

    Thanks guys.

    Zack
    Last edited by Zillon; 11-13-2012 at 11:38 AM.
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    Perfect! Thank you!
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    Your welcome.

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    I have actually noticed a slight clunking sound in mine when say im parked in the garage and move my wheels to center. Also heard it the other day while in a drive through. Nothing on the road though, just while moving the wheels while barely moving or not moving at all.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mjniss View Post
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    Is it me, or does it really look like this isn't bolted all the way down?

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    Kragbax I hope it's just you! LOL
    I don't seem to have any issues/noises. Fingers crossed.

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    I hope I am not the master of the obvious here, however I do not believe Michigan Assembly uses Socket head machine bolts. The lack of corrosion protection on this fastener would never pass muster. Has this joint ever been touched? Looks like an aftermarket/home remedy?

    Curious...


    "Zillon;17066]Hey guys..."

    Long story short, over the last year,
    Thanks guys.

    Zack[/QUOTE]
    Last edited by Frankie_2012; 11-12-2012 at 07:37 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zillon View Post
    So, I've been paying attention on here for any suspension noise complaints to arise from any ST owners, and I've yet to see anyone say a word.
    Zillon, I traded my 2012 SE Sport "Automatic" for my ST3. My SE had the clunks which I complained about from the first week of ownership. A couple of TSB's and lots of conversations and was told "Ford says it's normal". When I traded, the owner of the dealer asked if there were any issues with the car, and I replied it has 2 "Ford Normal" issues, clunks and the "stutter" (it's not the clutches) and he knew all about it and said "there's still no fix for those". Didn't affect my trade price, bought both cars from him.

    My ST3 has 300 miles on it and I'm thinking it's starting to clunk but it's so particular about when it happens that it might be something other than suspension. It is noticeable when exiting my garage which has a 2" drop as I go to the outside world. I don't hear anything while tooling around town and I haven't tried parking lot speed bumps. btw no creaking sound at this time.
    ********I just went down to take a couple of photos and while poking around I noticed two items that can cause clunk - the coolant reservoir which rests on a rubber bumper and had some play until I put a wadded up paper towel under it, and the fuse box lid . . . same fix. NO CLUNK ANYMORE.********

    The big problem with my new car is "wheel hop" on strong acceleration which is believed to be related to a weak rear motor mount.

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    Hope this helps.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Frankie_2012 View Post
    I hope I am not the master of the obvious here, however I do not believe Michigan Assembly uses Socket head machine bolts. The lack of corrosion protection on this fastener would never pass muster. Has this joint ever been touched? Looks like an aftermarket/home remedy?

    Curious...

    Quote Originally Posted by "Zillon" View Post
    Hey guys...

    Long story short, over the last year,
    Thanks guys.

    Zack
    Those bolts are a temporary fix of mine, and an attempt to see whether a slightly higher torque spec on the strut mounting bolts would quiet the suspension down, since the OEM grade 10.9 bolts have a max torque value of 25-27 ft-lbs. I ended up cutting the spacers off of the OEM bolts, drilling them out 1mm, and using grade 12.9 socket head bolts. I torqued them to 35 ft-lbs. Initially, it quieted down a bit. But, now we're back to normal.

    I am familiar with the fact that there is no corrosion protection, which is why they aren't a permanent solution. FYI, The factory bolts are $20 a piece MSRP.

    Thanks for the input, guys.
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    Focus ST front dampers & mounts / Koni Yellow rear dampers

 

 
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